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Cold Case - Molly's Truth

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Mr. Death:
All that is of course assuming a property of the Starborn that nobody in the know about the Starborn has ever alluded to in any manner, and for which there has been no evidence or suggestion of the possibility in the books.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: Mr. Death on January 31, 2018, 06:34:28 PM ---All that is of course assuming a property of the Starborn that nobody in the know about the Starborn has ever alluded to in any manner, and for which there has been no evidence or suggestion of the possibility in the books.

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No worry. It will all be explained in the prequel brought to us by the time traveling future Jim Butcher to be read before the series started. You have read it, you will remember later.

jonas:

--- Quote from: Arjan on January 31, 2018, 03:16:28 PM ---Her worth certainly but that has nothing to do with being starborn. We have no clues about that. Nothing special about her time or place of birth for example.
Not really. The choice was thirteen years ago but after that both worlds went their own way and the people on both worlds are different peoples with different histories. Mirror Mirror is more like traveling to alternative worlds, not time travel as such.

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Multiverse. in a multiverse space and tiem are directly related and worlds are in parallel the closer they are to each other in results. ergo any space travel is immediately time travel. (oh, and yea, there will be years of time travel) Sorry, except... i'm not ;D

jonas:

--- Quote from: peregrine on January 31, 2018, 05:11:05 PM ---"I see this" as your perspective does not absolve you from needing to support it.  And no, it's a negative statement, since I am arguing against what you affirmed, and have yet to provide any evidence to back up aside from her being the daughter of Michael and Charity.  So it's not really legalese lol  You made the statement "Molly is Starborn."  Back it up.  Until you do, I get to default to "No she isn't."

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I see this as an effect of Molly being starborn.
YOU said "Molly isn't starborn" quit trying to split Hairs because I really don't care to prove anything to people who do that.
Your default is unprovable, your attitude is untenable and overall your wrong anyway i'm just not going to bother with someone who thinks this way.
I set a provisional, you set an affirmative negative as a reply. You don't understand debating, good bye.
(ohhh and Mollly is a Starborn ;) have a swell day)
*the method of inferring a cause by studying the direct effects is kinda the basis of theory. the proof is sheerly in the results. i.e. Molly Gainsaying Fae nature itself.

Once again, this is exactly how we do not behave here.   If you can not make your point without a "you" statement regarding the thoughts of fellow forum members, you have not made a point, you have made an attack. 

Go read the precepts, people.

Blaze, as Mod.

raidem:
It does seem though that the wild hunt wanted Harry to lead it for a time.  Kringle, or erlking, go so far as to imply that whatever he uses his power to do will grace the wild hunt.  He overthrew sharkface mental assault and granted starborn resistance to the wild hunt.  I believe it was this quality that erlking and kringle wanted to bestow upon the hunt.  It gave them more resistance and attack against outsiders. 

Another point, vadderung continually suggests to Harry that he has allies. Much of it is that he doesn't have to go solo and take risks that would be very bad/stupid without them. A side note, not necessarily related to starborn, in amber a mortal without powers that walks in the shadows with Merlin, a amberite/chaosian, can be empowered by their proximity to this person while they engage in these magical endeavors.  This means that over time Murphy will acquire magical abilities via travel in the nevernever and arctis tor, exposure to wild hunt, exposure to other magical energies, fights with supernatural creatures, etc.

I don't think that Molly is a starborn herself.  I could see though that she is being empowered by Harry starborn power.  And that she is empowering others in a limited fashioned.

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