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Cold Case - Molly's Truth
Arjan:
--- Quote from: jonas on January 31, 2018, 04:32:03 AM ---No, you said, Molly isn't starborn, that's an affirmative statement, bring more than your disbelieve to the table.
I actually said 'I see this' as in my perspective, you acclaimed acritically she was not... You might wanna Lawyer up if your gonna try to speak legalese on my ass I tell you what :o lol
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There was never any vague clue in the books or in woj or in the rpg or anywhere else Butcher even suggesting something that could remotely point to Molly being starborn so as far as a negative can be proven it is. :)
Jim Butcher will come with some time travel thing, he already did in cold days, but it will be subtle and it would be the very near past. Vadderung's words in Cold Days are an indication. Any theory that posulates time travel of years is most probably not true.
Any time travel theory that postulates decades or centuries of time travel is plain crazy
jonas:
--- Quote from: Arjan on January 31, 2018, 09:25:14 AM ---There was never any vague clue in the books or in woj or in the rpg or anywhere else Butcher even suggesting something that could remotely point to Molly being starborn so as far as a negative can be proven it is. :)
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That proves only your own sight on what is there. Molly's worth has been alluded to in multiple ways the most direct is how she was born, after being part of some unknown plot/ritual saved by the love of a good man, ect. I described BOTH Harry and Molly if you caught that. The alignment that makes a Starborn might be shown loosely right there...
--- Quote ---Jim Butcher will come with some time travel thing, he already did in cold days, but it will be subtle and it would be the very near past. Vadderung's words in Cold Days are an indication. Any theory that posulates time travel of years is most probably not true.
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Ermm.. you know if GP was the first choice then the eventual time travel will go back from this point in time vaguely 13 years sooo, that's actually about given here.
--- Quote ---Any time travel theory that postulates decades or centuries of time travel is plain crazy
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get ready for a crazy F'n book then.
raidem:
--- Quote ---GOOGLE AUDIENCE: “Silly Dresden Files question. I remember in Cold Days the shenanigans regarding the origin of Demonreach. And can we expect more time shenanigans in future books?”
JB: “More time shenanigans? SIR, one of the Laws of Magic states that you cannot mess with time like that! OF COURSE, there will be more time shenanigans! I only established the seven Laws of Magic so I could have Dresden methodically break them one by one!”
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Arjan:
--- Quote from: jonas on January 31, 2018, 10:46:11 AM ---That proves only your own sight on what is there. Molly's worth has been alluded to in multiple ways the most direct is how she was born, after being part of some unknown plot/ritual saved by the love of a good man, ect.
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Her worth certainly but that has nothing to do with being starborn. We have no clues about that. Nothing special about her time or place of birth for example.
--- Quote ---I described BOTH Harry and Molly if you caught that. The alignment that makes a Starborn might be shown loosely right there...
Ermm.. you know if GP was the first choice then the eventual time travel will go back from this point in time vaguely 13 years sooo, that's actually about given here.
get ready for a crazy F'n book then.
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Not really. The choice was thirteen years ago but after that both worlds went their own way and the people on both worlds are different peoples with different histories. Mirror Mirror is more like traveling to alternative worlds, not time travel as such.
Quantus:
Jumping back to the boundaries on Fae and the limits of Literal requirements on statements to be true: We know that their statements do not have to be perfectly literal or perfectly true.
1) They can be honestly Incorrect, as with the infamous "She Lies" bit at the end of GS
2) They can be open to degrees interpretation, as when various sidhe have called Lea the 2nd most powerful Winter fae next to Mab, despite the existence of Mother Winter
3) I contend they can also be wildly skewed by perspective (which may no really be district from #1). My example here is when Lea described Mab as being on par with an Archangel; by all objective measures (and WOJ) we have this is simply not correct, but if you add on the sort of Absolute Power Mab holds over all Fae, between her Will translating to Winter Law and her sharing the ability to Draft all the Wyld-fae when necessary. To a fae there is a lot less of a gap between the Mab and an Archangel than there might be to something outside of her Authority.
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