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We see 1000ish years ago?
Serack:
--- Quote from: raidem on January 19, 2018, 02:46:44 PM ---We have this WOJ:
The first quote is the main one that is relevant. I included the others from this link made by Serack http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,48717.msg2258880.html#msg2258880.
My main theory Murphy/Mab requires that Murphy revisit this time. That said, this thread asks the question if we will see from Harry's point of view in a time traveling book the events when both Queens died. Jim mentions these events in WOJ, but the avg reader really has no knowledge of this. So for it to be germane to the story other than mere backstory not in the books, Jim will need to write it in. How does Jim tie it into the plot? Will we get a reveal of who Mab and Titania are prior to ascending.
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Wait, just checking, is your main theory that Murphy=Mab?
Because I'm pretty sure Murphy doesn't have a twin.
--- Quote from: WoJ from 2014 AMA ---Can we get a break down of the biological relationships between the various Fae Queens we have seen on screen?
Of particular interest - Maeve and Sarissa, were they actually Mab's kids (biological sense)? If so, who was Mab's baby daddy?
Mab and Titania are actual twin sisters.
Maeve and Sarissa were twin sisters, from Mab. Their father was an Austrian composer and musician who died young.
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raidem:
I've dealt with that a few times. And, I agreed it was a hurdle.
Mab and Titania are actual twin sisters
1) The mantles make Mab and Titania 'actual twin sisters.' (genetically speaking)
2) The mantles are actual twin sisters.
3) Murphy has an actual twin sister (a deal we don't know about)
4) Murphy becomes Mab, her Mirror self becomes Titania
5) An temporal event 1000+ years ago causes two Murphy's to appear (similar somewhat to Mirror self)
<curveball: misleading WOJ in some way>
Something along those lines above. It still requires these twin sisters to become Winter Lady and Summer Lady. Then both ascend nearly 1000+ years ago.
The other theory is that Murphy succeeds to be Mab in the future rather than past.
Quantus:
To the OP, I dont really expect us to be shown ANY of the globally significant past events. Seeing more personally significant events like the Justin confrontation, Harry's trial, or the death of his parents might happen, Michael Vs Dragon would be cool. And getting some of the specific historic era events that have been mentions might happen (in Short story form) like the youth of the current SC members or the story of Klaus the Toymaker.
But I dont expect to get the any of the globally huge events on page; no Hastings battle, no Arthur, no Crucifixion, or Kemmler Death or previous Ladies.
raidem:
--- Quote ---GOOGLE AUDIENCE: “Silly Dresden Files question. I remember in Cold Days the shenanigans regarding the origin of Demonreach. And can we expect more time shenanigans in future books?”
JB: “More time shenanigans? SIR, one of the Laws of Magic states that you cannot mess with time like that! OF COURSE, there will be more time shenanigans! I only established the seven Laws of Magic so I could have Dresden methodically break them one by one!”
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raidem:
--- Quote ---I'm talking about my TTMurphy=Mab theory but will change to a generic case for the remainder.
Assume Person A(Murphy) time travels into the past (1000+ years) to assume a mantle, say that of X(Lady=>Mab).
Person A with X(as Mab) then goes through history to finally arrive when Person A lives (Murphy born is playing in events we see onscreen)
There is overlap and interaction between Person A and Person A with X (as Mab) onscreen going toward an event in which Person A time travels into past.
My question is how would you go about undoing this cycle. Would simply trying to kill Person A do the trick. I don't think so because we know Person A with X exists. So, it brings me to the case of Arctis Tor and Demonreach. If you were to kill both Person A and Person A with X then you can unmake or at least have a better chance at undoing the cycle completely and wreaking havoc on the entire timeline dependent on Person A with X assuming their position 1000+ years ago. This applies to both my and Ms. Duck's theory by the way as both Molly and Murphy were present on each occasion in which it could be argued that Mab was in danger.
What do you guys think. Can you think of instances of time travel in literature changes things but then an attempt is made to change the change. And how would that apply to this situation.
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