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raidem:
In the thread on Queen Succession Rules, the topic about "the point at which the mantle of Lady would be destroyed came up.  Mab defines it as the Lady "to become a mother."  Her statement is as follows.


--- Quote ---"Three Queens of Summer; three Queens of Winter," she said, that alien gaze returning to me.  "Maiden, Mother, and Crone.  You are the Maiden, Lady Molly.  And for you to be otherwise, to become a mother, would be destroy the mantle of power you wear."  The mantle protected itself--as it must.
"What?" 
She tilted her head and stared at me.  "It is all within the law.  I suggest you spend a few hours each day meditating on it in the future. In time you will gain and adequate understanding of your limits."
--- End quote ---

We have seen that there is a self defense mechanism within the Lady mantle that prevents sex, but if push came to shove could a pregnant Lady exist.  We know that only 'to become a mother' destroys it.  Anyway, that is a topic of another thread.  Now shift back to Harry's sperm :)

I have wondered if Harry, wielding the Knight's power, is having his sperm changed such that his children from this point forward will have greater fae genetics. I wondered how such condition would affect a child sired by Harry with Murphy.  And should such child, fetus at this point, accompany Murphy in time traveling into the distant past to become Mab.

To simplify the main topic of discussion, I assert that Harry's future children will have very high levels of fae genetics.

Mira:

   My guess is not, because the Knight is human and remains human, he doesn't transform over time into a Fae...  So other than the higher risk for some birth defects due to Murphy being in her forties now, the baby would be all human with possible magical talent from Harry's side.   

groinkick:
Sperm needs to be warm to survive.  I would not be at all surprised if the Winter Knight Mantle makes the Winter Knight incapable of having children via freezing them.

This would make a lot of sense.  It allows the Winter Knight to have sex with the Winter Lady without fear of impregnation (means Harry, and Molly can get down and dirty, or at least the possibility is there for story reasons.)

On the flip side maybe it doesn't because it means that there is a good possibility that the Winter Knight can father a child with the Queen.

raidem:

--- Quote from: Mira on January 17, 2018, 08:05:01 PM ---   My guess is not, because the Knight is human and remains human, he doesn't transform over time into a Fae...  So other than the higher risk for some birth defects due to Murphy being in her forties now, the baby would be all human with possible magical talent from Harry's side.

--- End quote ---

We have learned that Molly had distant fae familial connections which was partly what allowed her to be shaped into a vessel. She needed more 'rehab' than usual because of these distant roots.  It would follow then that a child sired by a Knight who holds power that originates from the Queens would be closer to the fae than what otherwise would be the case.

I'll go further to emphasize this, the Knight power originates from the Queens. So the Knight holds a Fae Mantle, part of the Queens and similar to many of the Elder Fae.  I think a child of the Knight would be considered a changeling, or scion because of this.

It brings me back to Allison Ann Summers.  Could she have been the murdered Summer Knights daughter? With Titania?

So, for my purposes onward I'm going to assume any child Harry has while wearing the Winter Knight will be a scion or changeling until proved otherwise.

Next question, Will Harry conceive of a child while wearing the Winter Knight mantle?  Did Harry conceive of a child with Mab during Changes?

Griffyn612:
It's not necessarily the genetics that would be changed, but the spiritual component.  I still like to think that Dresdenverse mortals consist of body, spirit, and soul.  Being exposed to Fae magic might change some of the spirit, which could be passed from parent to child. 

That way, the body remains human. 

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