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Queen Succession Rules
wardenferry419:
Mab, Maeve, and Harry have predatory mantles.
Maeve is an unrestrained predator.
Harry is a functional predator with control problems.
Mab is a self-controlled predator.
How would each react to the other?
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: raidem on January 23, 2018, 11:08:47 PM ---This is evidence to support the idea that the Knight can in fact have sex with the Lady. Or in the case Maeve was lying...
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That isn't a lie. Maeve is stating her honest opinion. she believes that the Knight and lady should be together f****** like animals. Just because the reality is that can't happen, doesn't make her opinion a lie.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Cozarkian on January 24, 2018, 01:59:37 AM ---That isn't a lie. Maeve is stating her honest opinion. she believes that the Knight and lady should be together f****** like animals. Just because the reality is that can't happen, doesn't make her opinion a lie.
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I think it does, at least based on how we saw Mantle Knowledge being conveyed to Molly in Cold Case; it seemed to work kind of like Intellectus where as soon as she considers the issue she'd be Informed of the truth of it. If we were talking cosmic knowledge that the Mantle might not know anything about (like the whole Mab thing at the end of GS) it might be different, but here we are talking about the Mantle's own functions.
Also, I HIGHLY doubt the idea of banging the Knight never occurred to her with any of the past knights.
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: Quantus on January 24, 2018, 01:56:11 PM ---I think it does, at least based on how we saw Mantle Knowledge being conveyed to Molly in Cold Case; it seemed to work kind of like Intellectus where as soon as she considers the issue she'd be Informed of the truth of it. If we were talking cosmic knowledge that the Mantle might not know anything about (like the whole Mab thing at the end of GS) it might be different, but here we are talking about the Mantle's own functions.
Also, I HIGHLY doubt the idea of banging the Knight never occurred to her with any of the past knights.
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She doesn't need to believe that she can have sex the Knight in order for that statement to be true, she just needs to believe that the rule prohibiting her from doing so is stupid.
It would be like encouraging someone driving a sports car to speed by telling them they are supposed to go fast even though you know there is a cop car that will pull them over if they do.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Cozarkian on January 24, 2018, 02:50:40 PM ---She doesn't need to believe that she can have sex the Knight in order for that statement to be true, she just needs to believe that the rule prohibiting her from doing so is stupid.
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I have to be misunderstanding you because this sounds entirely counter to the whole "Fae Cannot Lie" rule. She (physically) has no control over her words, against the mantle anyway. Even if she disagreed with the Mantle's rules/boundaries/etc it would still be entirely capable of simply Replacing the words she wanted to speak with one's it prefers, as it did with Molly.
She can think it's stupid all she want, but short of Nemfection that is not enough for her to knowingly speak an actual Falsehood.
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