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Disproof
forumghost:
Time-Travel. They're identical twins in that they are genetically the same person, from another timeline. (Incidentally this is why I hate Timetravel theories. You can justify practically anything with enough application of Time-Travel.)
Arjan:
Titania is Mab from a mirror mirror world. Insert some time traveling here to make it work.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Cozarkian on January 11, 2018, 11:13:04 PM ---Harry clearly relies upon Murphy as an ally in both Cold Days and Skin Game. Those are in the future with respect to Mab's comments in GS, and Mab would know that she was Murphy and that Harry, would, in the future, be considering Murphy an ally.
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In the future with respect to an Objective Timeline only. Any time spent in a previous persona would still be in Mab's Past. In any present where they can interact you'd have to consider them separate entities. And that's ignoring all the paradox and/or butterfly effect issues with Mab living through the same events twice while somehow maintain memory of both.
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: Quantus on January 12, 2018, 12:56:33 PM ---In the future with respect to an Objective Timeline only. Any time spent in a previous persona would still be in Mab's Past. In any present where they can interact you'd have to consider them separate entities. And that's ignoring all the paradox and/or butterfly effect issues with Mab living through the same events twice while somehow maintain memory of both.
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I think you are arguing for a subjective timeline, there. Objectively, it would be in the future. Mab would not have lived those stories in her Mab persona yet, which means they are future events of which she has a past memory. Ergo, she would have had past knowledge that she was lying about the future. Also, for the ally portion of the statement, Mab's timeline is irrelevant. She said Harry will never consider her an ally in his heart, which makes Harry's timeline the relevant consideration, and Cold Days and Skin Game were in the future in Harry's timeline.
Now, Mab could have forgotten who she was in her mortal past life, which would make her wrong instead of a liar, but that would require the theory to be at least altered.
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: twobee on January 12, 2018, 07:53:05 AM ---I hate to burst your bubble, but unless you can explain how Murphy or Molly has an identical twin sister that we have somehow never heard about or seen evidence of, neither one can possibly be Mab. WOJ has specifically said Mab and Titania are twin sisters, in the biological sense
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By the rules of the thread, though, we aren't allowed to rely upon WOJ. And also, one of the problems with "disproving" a theory is that JB has claimed he tells lies for a living and stated that Harry is an unreliable narrator. With regard to the twins, you are even left with JB was telling the truth "from a certain point of view." In addition to the cloning and alternate dimension theories, maybe JB meant the original Titania and Mab were actual twins and since the mantel slowly alters all subsequent Queens to take the form and personality of the originals, they are all always "actual twins from a certain point of view."
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