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Making things on DR
Quantus:
--- Quote from: jonas on January 25, 2018, 01:50:48 AM ---I sir am made of Water.
It's just very hard to get other people to step away from the Canvas they have. Your more in the habit than most to misunderstand me anyway, to my frustration sometime.
But do I give up?.... no. Simply ignore all these attached idea's and focus on the facts in your own quoteNone of the other things matter, all the Warden talk is extraneous detail and My words pointing to her talking to DR first were both misspoke and Non germaine to getting my point across. It's what she said to him that matters, Thankee Sai.
*he both chose, proving a thought process, and Reacted, proving a preconceived subroutine towards the situation at hand.
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Yes, Alfred can think, nobody is denying that. Yes, he exhibited a some unexplained form of restraint, and yes Mab thanked him for it. But did Alfred Choose to Raise the Circle Barrier? Nope, Lily did.
jonas:
--- Quote from: Quantus on January 26, 2018, 02:21:34 PM ---Yes, Alfred can think, nobody is denying that. Yes, he exhibited a some unexplained form of restraint, and yes Mab thanked him for it. But did Alfred Choose to Raise the Circle Barrier? Nope, Lily did.
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Does that have anything at all to do with if he actively choose to take Mab or not? Nope the convo we already dressed up and down from Mab did. Lily activated preconstructed magic that could be done by literally anybody, Harry summoned a creature that could be called by literally any human. Does the fact Lily jiggered with DR to try and get into the inner sanctum somehow gainsay the original purpose of the wards, which would not be to make DR more vulnerable? Nope.
Does your assertion have most any effect on mines what so ever? Not if your listening...
Quantus:
--- Quote from: jonas on January 26, 2018, 03:09:24 PM ---Does that have anything at all to do with if he actively choose to take Mab or not? Nope the convo we already dressed up and down from Mab did. Lily activated preconstructed magic that could be done by literally anybody, Harry summoned a creature that could be called by literally any human. Does the fact Lily jiggered with DR to try and get into the inner sanctum somehow gainsay the original purpose of the wards, which would not be to make DR more vulnerable? Nope.
Does your assertion have most any effect on mines what so ever? Not if your listening...
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Ok, so What Im getting here is that you agree with the point I was making and had simply moved on to another without me. Cool.
jonas:
--- Quote from: Quantus on January 28, 2018, 01:19:45 PM ---Ok, so What Im getting here is that you agree with the point I was making and had simply moved on to another without me. Cool.
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What i'm getting is I tried to explain something and you latched onto the first foilable you found weither it linearly connected to what I was trying to point out or not... Not cool? The interaction between Mab and DR was always my focus.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: jonas on January 28, 2018, 02:28:15 PM ---What i'm getting is I tried to explain something and you latched onto the first foilable you found weither it linearly connected to what I was trying to point out or not... Not cool? The interaction between Mab and DR was always my focus.
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If you say so. This was always my only point:
--- Quote from: Quantus on January 22, 2018, 01:30:32 PM ---I agree with that entirely. Im just trying to say there is a big difference between Lily activating a pre-existing element of the Island and Alfred exercising initiative with those structures. It's the same division of Power vs Authority that stopped him from Imprisoning Shagnasty even though he actively hated him, and the same reason Im sure that Alfred could free the inmates (because he literally is the walls and doors and locks) but he never Would without an outside agent (ideally the Warden) making the Choice and initiating the process.
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If, when you jumped into that part of the conversation you were actually talking about something else, Sorry I missed your transition.
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