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Making things on DR
jonas:
--- Quote from: Quantus on January 24, 2018, 06:56:23 PM ---Im looking at the scene now and I do not think that's how it went down. As I said she addresses Harry first, and only after getting /his/ permission to set foot on DR did she turn and address Alfred. At which point she says:
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and points out he could have reacted differently and he did indeed decide,
--- Quote --- as I said.Given that his "patience" is what she was thanking him for, I have to think she was referring to some action, or lack of, that he chose to do prior to her arrival. Id always figured this meant that Alfred had another, more proactive, response to the direct attack by the Ladies (ie. the "Rudeness" she ordered them to cease). And the loss of the Lady Mantle to the Well (and thus to her Knight's digression) could have potentially been wildly disastrous for Mab personally and for Winter as a whole.
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Which is simply not the case, he had no recourse for their actions on his own.
--- Quote ---This was specifically not the case. Per Harry in that scene, any mortal but ONLY mortals can use a Circle to Summon something. Meaning for example, Lily could not do so.
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But a genuine human could both activate circle and summon using it. I find it far likelier he had a direct recourse for someone activating preconceived wards vs he choose to allow the Ladies to attack him. Go with programming, psychology, whatever. The preconceived response to activating a huge ward/summoning circle and having something summoned into it seems a lot more legit than "i choose to allow this incursion based on Mab's will even though at Harrys pleasure I will snatch the existence right out of her reality."
Seems to me your looking at the Warden's response as a certain thing, but it was him naysaying the intention to capture as permission to enter and that being passed onto DR that mattered.
Think again about it "not being the case". You don't set up Wards that anyone can activate without a purpose, like trapping others without an active Warden. Quit Nitpicking because Lily activated it. That it was there at all is Watsonian to it's purpose.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: jonas on January 24, 2018, 07:46:00 PM ---and points out he could have reacted differently and he did indeed decide,Which is simply not the case, he had no recourse for their actions on his own. But a genuine human could both activate circle and summon using it. I find it far likelier he had a direct recourse for someone activating preconceived wards vs he choose to allow the Ladies to attack him. Go with programming, psychology, whatever. The preconceived response to activating a huge ward/summoning circle and having something summoned into it seems a lot more legit than "i choose to allow this incursion based on Mab's will even though at Harrys pleasure I will snatch the existence right out of her reality."
Seems to me your looking at the Warden's response as a certain thing, but it was him naysaying the intention to capture as permission to enter and that being passed onto DR that mattered.
Think again about it "not being the case". You don't set up Wards that anyone can activate without a purpose, like trapping others without an active Warden. Quit Nitpicking because Lily activated it. That it was there at all is Watsonian to it's purpose.
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Arguing against a brick wall, I give up
kazimmoinuddin:
Bonnie was givern birth to on the island, and was actively interacting with Alfred for a while. She likely has been influence by demonreach already and for a long term basis.
jonas:
--- Quote from: Quantus on January 24, 2018, 08:50:01 PM ---Arguing against a brick wall, I give up
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I sir am made of Water.
It's just very hard to get other people to step away from the Canvas they have. Your more in the habit than most to misunderstand me anyway, to my frustration sometime.
But do I give up?.... no. Simply ignore all these attached idea's and focus on the facts in your own quote
--- Quote ---You could have reacted differently but chose not to. I am aware of the decision.
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None of the other things matter, all the Warden talk is extraneous detail and My words pointing to her talking to DR first were both misspoke and Non germaine to getting my point across. It's what she said to him that matters, Thankee Sai.
*he both chose, proving a thought process, and Reacted, proving a preconceived subroutine towards the situation at hand.
groinkick:
I bet a blasting rod constructed on DR would be pretty nasty
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