The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
White Court Anit-Love and Blood Rites
Rasins:
--- Quote from: Dashkull on January 16, 2018, 08:55:00 AM ---The relevant passage from the books regarding this is in Proven Guilty, the scene right after Harry and Thomas leave Zero.
The phrase that sums it up best (IMHO) is when Thomas says the danger occurs when the Hunger is "close to the surface." This can mean several different things; that the Vamp is very hungry, that the Vamp is very turned on; that the vamp is actively trying to feed; that the vamp is actively using some of the Hunger's energy, etc.
My guess for something like the wedding ring scar is that Lara was using her power to try to seduce someone, the game and intrigue of the situation also causing Lara to get turned on herself. As part of the seduction, she goes to hide the wedding ring from sight, so the victim isnt reminded of his true love by the sight of it, and because her Hunger is so close to the surface the ring is able to badly badly burn her. Why that is a permanent scar vs Harry's kiss or what Justine does to Madeline seems to heal completely is not addressed at all, but that could be something as simple as how intense the love was or how young Lara was when it happened.
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I would think the "lingering power" on an object like a wedding ring, or a rose would be akin to that of a threshold. Power keeps getting pushed into it, through those in love (or those living in the home in the case of a threshold). So that even when the person is separated from it, the power is still there to be able to harm a Wampire (or prevent a supernatural from entering a home with mal-intent).
I think, like a threshold, that when a Wampire isn't attempting to feed, or there is no mal-intent, it won't harm them.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Rasins on January 17, 2018, 06:18:13 PM ---I would think the "lingering power" on an object like a wedding ring, or a rose would be akin to that of a threshold. Power keeps getting pushed into it, through those in love (or those living in the home in the case of a threshold). So that even when the person is separated from it, the power is still there to be able to harm a Wampire (or prevent a supernatural from entering a home with mal-intent).
I think, like a threshold, that when a Wampire isn't attempting to feed, or there is no mal-intent, it won't harm them.
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I think I really like that connection, actually. Thresholds operate on the concept of Family, and the Love/Marriage bond is one of the most fundamental building blocks of that, and philosophically they are more or less subconscious applications of group Magic. I could easily accept that the Love Energy that gets stamped into Objects would operate on similar principles and be fueled by the continued proximity and/or emotional Connection. Put another way, it sounds like a very primal and unrefined equivalent to a spell that is anchored and fueled by a Bloodline, like LaFey's Curse that was anchored to he sons (and to a lesser and ill-defined degree anchored to their necklaces?)
Rasins:
Okay Q (and thank you for agreeing with me.),
If you have a married couple who are truly in love and stay that way until one of them dies. Does the other retain that protection? I think the answer is yes, based on Harry's experience.
Now, would the residual effect of that love still linger on say, the wedding ring of the deceased? Or on that Nick-Nack that the spouse gave them and they loved so much, even after their death?
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Rasins on January 19, 2018, 07:58:06 PM ---Okay Q (and thank you for agreeing with me.),
If you have a married couple who are truly in love and stay that way until one of them dies. Does the other retain that protection? I think the answer is yes, based on Harry's experience.
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Subject to the normal "Loss via Boinking", Id think so.
--- Quote ---Now, would the residual effect of that love still linger on say, the wedding ring of the deceased? Or on that Nick-Nack that the spouse gave them and they loved so much, even after their death?
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After the first one Dies I think the answer is firmly Yes. But once both are dead I dont think it would stick around (though it might drift away instead of blinking out). In the same way Threasholds and Bloodline-anchored magic need a Living source, Id expect the True Love to fade once both halves have moved on. Even if a loved-one kept the object and the memory, it would start representing a different bond, a bond of parent to child or whatever it is.
jonas:
Q, asked this question on FB and got the response from someone that the ring was from a couple who'd been married 50 years imbuing it with the love cultivated in all that time.. Can you confirm the 50+ years thing cause i'd never heard and they couldn't directly.
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