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Rasins:
And what was the deal at the end, where the two little boys were telling the story of the battle between Luke and Ben, then showing one of them going out to sweep and using the force?

I think that could totally be a hint that there are lots of force users out there that are not getting trained, but could be gathered.

Also, I believe that ...

(click to show/hide)Luke is not dead.  I think the battle with Ben was a means Luke discovered to project himself, like a force ghost, and he never left the island.

WereElephant:
Curious to know what Harry, Molly, Thomas, and Butters think of the new movies. And the franchise as a whole.

I'm guessing Harry and Butters are original trilogy sticklers who refuse to acknowledge the prequels, though Butters is up on pre-Phantom Menace Expanded Universe. And despite anything Harry says, I bet he thinks the Ewoks were cute, to Thomas' and Butters' disgust.

Thomas, despite his disdain for the portrayal, feels something of a sympathy with prequel Anakin, always being tempted by a darker side, but also a contempt for his weakness at dealing with it. He has only seen the movies and the Clone Wars animated series.

Molly enjoys all of it, understanding that just because it has imperfections doesn't mean it should be condemned. I'm hoping she brings some Star Wars-esque beings into the Winter Court.

None of them like Porgs.

Rasins:

--- Quote from: WereElephant on December 29, 2017, 04:38:37 PM ---Curious to know what Harry, Molly, Thomas, and Butters think of the new movies. And the franchise as a whole.

I'm guessing Harry and Butters are original trilogy sticklers who refuse to acknowledge the prequels, though Butters is up on pre-Phantom Menace Expanded Universe. And despite anything Harry says, I bet he thinks the Ewoks were cute, to Thomas' and Butters' disgust.

Thomas, despite his disdain for the portrayal, feels something of a sympathy with prequel Anakin, always being tempted by a darker side, but also a contempt for his weakness at dealing with it. He has only seen the movies and the Clone Wars animated series.

Molly enjoys all of it, understanding that just because it has imperfections doesn't mean it should be condemned. I'm hoping she brings some Star Wars-esque beings into the Winter Court.

None of them like Porgs.

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I don't understand why everyone was so down on the Porgs.

(click to show/hide)They looked delicious.

Kindler:

--- Quote from: Rasins on December 29, 2017, 05:06:52 PM ---I don't understand why everyone was so down on the Porgs.

(click to show/hide)They looked delicious.
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Personally, I found their presence to be overused. It's the type of RANDOMM XD humor that is currently popular but I find annoying. A couple of scenes are fine, but they were basically Chewbacca's entire character arc in the movie.

raidem:
(click to show/hide)Raisins: Luke is not dead.  I think the battle with Ben was a means Luke discovered to project himself, like a force ghost, and he never left the island.

That is what happened.

Luke projected from the island onto the planet to distract Ben to give the Rebels a chance to escape. He was never there, just a very well made mirage.  Next time you watch it, check out Luke's feet in the fight scenes. His steps and stances never reveals the red salt underneath while Kylo steps do. I caught that nugget on the second time through. :)  As to his force melding on the island, it may be a grey area of "death" where he may get show time again as a live figure or a hybrid where his force self may play a role in a fight to come though.  Yoda caused lightning on the island to strike a tree; I think we can see Luke do some things likewise as well, and more things that Yoda couldn't.

In the expanded universe in the lead up to finding out who turned Jacen Solo, Luke learns to mind walk from the mindwalkers.  It's similar to what Luke did in this episode of The Last Jedi.  It's an ability that leads him closer to learning about Abeloth, an imprisoned darkside creature responsible for the unbalancing of the force in cycles over the last 100k years. (Spoiler w/in Spoiler: The Sith and Jedi team up to fight her because she wants to kill everything.  Of course, the Sith stab each other and the Jedi in the back at times during the fights but it's a motif that recurs time and again.  The Sith (the ones who know her real threat) really don't like her at all.)


--- Quote ---And what was the deal at the end, where the two little boys were telling the story of the battle between Luke and Ben, then showing one of them going out to sweep and using the force?
I think that could totally be a hint that there are lots of force users out there that are not getting trained, but could be gathered.
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Yeah, the expanded universe never really force users as being all that rare.  I mean in the movies you'd think Luke, Lea, Vader, Emperor, Obiwan, etc were the only ones who were force users/potentials. In the EU, there are many force communities out there in the galaxy, with many people having some, medium, and strong strengths in the force.

Oh, and I can't wait to see DJ next time. (DJ Don't Join - the Codebreaker)
(click to show/hide)I think he will turn out to be a good guy and a great asset for the resistance that has been bidding his time to strike out at the First Order.  I'm sure there is some bad blood between himself and the Order that he hasn't revealed yet. But he is right, he can't fight if he is dead or imprisoned. So, he has to make some unethical bad choices to live another day.  I think he also may have some talent with the force.  He just happened to be in a prison cell right where he would be needed, with a very particular skillset that was being sought after.  He also knew the force symbol and it's metal content and just accepted it as token payment only to give it back while he required real payment from Snook and the Empire from ratting out the cloaked transports.

There was a X fighter pilot who had talent with force and it made him lucky, etc.  There could be something similar at play with DJ he has a nose for following a path even though it looks bad to us, it's one that ultimately ends better off than it otherwise would have if he played it our way.

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