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Avernite:

--- Quote from: Rasins on December 27, 2017, 07:04:15 PM ---That is what I think is happening now.  I think the vampires were trying to be the ones to take over from Winter.  The dinner that Maggie Sr, Ariana, and Lord Raith were at was the beginning of the planning.

When Eb wouldn't attend, the vampires decided that the Wizards had to be taken out so as to allow the Vamps to be able to create more troops for the defense of the Outer Gates.  Thus the plans for the War with the Wouncil.  But it was started a bit too early and they weren't able to put them away quickly enough.  The spell at Chichen Iza wasn't just to take out Harry and Eb, but all Wizards.

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The question is, what was Maggie Sr's plan there?

As in, I can see why the RCV and WCV would want to take over from Winter, but not what they'd do for Maggie. She wasn't called LeFay because of some long-term hatred of all things Faerie, so that isn't a reason - in fact, it seems a counter-indication of her being part of some plot to displace the Faerie Courts.

A far more logical story, to me, is that the RCV and WCV were plotting to displace the White Council from its pre-eminence (as a prelude to taking over the Outer Gates and the human world), and Maggie wanted it displaced too (as a prelude to her installing a new organisation on human Wizards). This worked together nicely until their secondary motives started to clash - Maggie did not want a bunch of vampires to rule the human world any more than she wanted that from the ossified White Council.

Rasins:
Avernite,

I can see Maggie Sr as being a conduit from the Vampires to the Wouncil.  I'd bet that the Vamps knew who her father was and they were looking for a better representative from the Wouncil than a dark sheep like Maggie Sr.

I could totally see them not telling her that they wanted to take over Humanity.  That may have been why she finally broke free from Lord Raith.

Avernite:

--- Quote from: Rasins on December 29, 2017, 04:00:25 PM ---Avernite,

I can see Maggie Sr as being a conduit from the Vampires to the Wouncil.  I'd bet that the Vamps knew who her father was and they were looking for a better representative from the Wouncil than a dark sheep like Maggie Sr.

I could totally see them not telling her that they wanted to take over Humanity.  That may have been why she finally broke free from Lord Raith.

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That is more or less in line with what I think, except I don't think Arianna and Lord Raith would involve their pawns in the beginning of their planning.

Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if this plot was long-lasting enough that the 'dinner' was nowhere near the beginning and yet it was still the same plot played out in Harry's war with the RCV.

Rasins:

--- Quote from: Avernite on December 29, 2017, 10:26:37 PM ---That is more or less in line with what I think, except I don't think Arianna and Lord Raith would involve their pawns in the beginning of their planning.

Then again, it wouldn't surprise me if this plot was long-lasting enough that the 'dinner' was nowhere near the beginning and yet it was still the same plot played out in Harry's war with the RCV.

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I agree it was a longer plan, but I think they brought Maggie in early-ish.  I think she might have overheard something and played into them.  Letting them know about her father.

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