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Who is the most evil character in the Dresdenverse?

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the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:

--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on December 11, 2017, 04:24:19 PM ---It is not a stable peace if one side is plotting the best time to attack the other side.

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It is if they have the slightest bit of sense about their assessment of the other side.

On one side, we have the Red Court knowing about the White Council for four or five hundred years, and taking all that time building up their forces to a point where even the most hardline of them think starting a war is a reasonable exercise.

On the other, we have Luccio in Changes noting that the Council has twice the combat strength it did before the disaster in DB.  Which took them about five years.

The Council can stay ahead of any rational Red Court threat indefinitely with a much lower growth rate than they demonstrate themselves capable of.  Therefore, stable.


--- Quote ---Humans are vamp food; noone who is hungry likes it when their food gets the ability to fight back.

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The most important datapoint we have here is Harry's conversation with Butters at the start of Dead Beat, which establishes that disappearances among humans in the DV are exactly the same as in reality.  Harry thinks that is supernatural predation because he is not in a position to make the comparison, but the DV is shown to have crime, and abusive families, and generally the same reasons real people disappear.  The message that conveys is that supernatural predation kills negligible numbers of people.  All supernatural predation, of which the Red Court are a subset.

Which doesn't mean they are friendly kittens.  But it does mean that for the White Council to spend time and enemy spent hunting them, compared to addressing much much bigger problems (the failure mode of not catching powerful warlocks early and firmly, for example, being on record as organising a world war), is gross negligence.

wardenferry419:
Maybe I over-simplify things; but, I believe the best way to end a war is to kill the enemy. It ain't nice but it would seem to be effective. Peace is not two guys sitting in a room, sharpening knifes and cleaning guns. And that is about where the RCV amd WC stood with each other.

Rasins:
Honestly, we don't know where the WC was in War prep.  We know they weren't prepared nearly enough.  It could have been a Rampire thing entirely.

the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:

--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on December 12, 2017, 12:12:53 AM ---Maybe I over-simplify things; but, I believe the best way to end a war is to kill the enemy. It ain't nice but it would seem to be effective.

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Growing up next to a conflict that that sort of attitude had been prolonging for centuries has made me extremely unsympathetic to that as a position, and to fiction which presents it as an acceptable solution.

forumghost:

--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on December 12, 2017, 01:40:57 AM ---Growing up next to a conflict that that sort of attitude had been prolonging for centuries has made me extremely unsympathetic to that as a position, and to fiction which presents it as an acceptable solution.

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Which is not unreasonable when talking about human conflict. But this is the Red Court. They literally can only exist, thrive, and propogate through murder and slavery.

That is why they need to be wiped out- the very nature of their existence is at war with Human kind.

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