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Who is the most evil character in the Dresdenverse?
Rasins:
Okay, I chose Peabody.
While he didn't directly do much in the way of busting heads or anything, we really don't know the extent of his influence.
Also, all the others seem to be to be pretty much straight up out for themselves, or at least Ends-justify-the-means types.
Peabody lied and betrayed the people he worked for and who trusted him. To me that is the greatest evil.
You can pretty much plan on how to handle the others, but a traitor .... that's not something you can easily foresee or plan for.
jonas:
--- Quote from: Rasins on December 06, 2017, 08:58:38 PM ---Okay, I chose Peabody.
While he didn't directly do much in the way of busting heads or anything, we really don't know the extent of his influence.
Also, all the others seem to be to be pretty much straight up out for themselves, or at least Ends-justify-the-means types.
Peabody lied and betrayed the people he worked for and who trusted him. To me that is the greatest evil.
You can pretty much plan on how to handle the others, but a traitor .... that's not something you can easily foresee or plan for.
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Ohhh, Well reasoned there.
Ananda:
--- Quote from: Arjan on December 04, 2017, 09:29:33 PM ---Dostoyevski?
There are several faults in this logic. First whether something is a human or a godly creation you can always say that it simply is. Illusionary or real doesn't matter, just call reality an illusion as well. You can render everything unimportant that way even eternal torture or bliss in hell or heaven. It just is, it has no meaning. God made it, so what? God just is.
Or do good and evil just have meaning because god commanded it so and would they lose meaning with the power of that god? Then good and evil have no meaning at all.
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I’m not sure I see the fault here. Yes, our surquedry tends to have us only consider a biological point of view, but, if we try to step outside ourselves, we may see there is perhaps no point of view. There is what is. It’s our sensory input and perception of passage of time that allows our nervous system to process and affect behaviours. We’re just a cool nervous system interacting with sensory input in linear time on a large mass orbiting other large masses. The amount of reality we perceive and assign meaning to is very limited and narrow. So, things almost certainly just are and we add meaning because that’s what we do. I’m fun at parties, though. ;)
Also, I wrote genoskwa but meant skinwalker guy in my previous post. What was its fancy name? Nagloshi? I hated that shagwhatevs nickname, so I could never remember what it was called.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: Ananda on December 07, 2017, 03:07:00 AM ---I’m not sure I see the fault here. Yes, our surquedry tends to have us only consider a biological point of view, but, if we try to step outside ourselves, we may see there is perhaps no point of view. There is what is. It’s our sensory input and perception of passage of time that allows our nervous system to process and affect behaviours. We’re just a cool nervous system interacting with sensory input in linear time on a large mass orbiting other large masses. The amount of reality we perceive and assign meaning to is very limited and narrow. So, things almost certainly just are and we add meaning because that’s what we do. I’m fun at parties, though. ;)
Also, I wrote genoskwa but meant skinwalker guy in my previous post. What was its fancy name? Nagloshi? I hated that shagwhatevs nickname, so I could never remember what it was called.
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The fault in the reasoning was that an all powerful got gives that meaning, sets an absolute standard for good and evil (add here the meaning of life if you want). That we need that all powerful god for that reason and that for that reason the white god must be all powerful.
And yes at the end language and all the words in it were evolved with us. We gave the meaning to words and we change those meanings. We make the stories. Mostly because those meanings are useful for us in this reality.
If you go for something like good has only meaning because god is almighty you will run into problems.
wardenferry419:
Good and evil are man-made constructs; but, they are necessary constructs. Giving objects and ideas meaning gives life meaning. Our experiences, those events that happen to us or that we cause to happen, define who we are as a person. We categorize these experience as a part of understanding. If one interaction feels positive and/or gives pleasure to our selves and others; it is labeled right and good. If another interaction feels negative and/or gives pain to ourselves and others; it is labeled wrong or evil. Very few experiences are entirely one side or the other and very experiences are not linked to other experiences; so, our categorizing of experiences is constantly in flux and continously developing.
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