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Kindler:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on December 13, 2017, 01:48:54 PM ---True.
But we have never seen anything else strike Kincaid as creepy, so I incline to read that as significant.
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It's not the name "Ivy" he finds creepy, it's her seeing Mister, shouting "KITTY!" and petting him. There is zero indication that this has anything to do with Harry calling her "Ivy," but everything to do with her thinking cats are fun to pet, which, considering that Ivy can easily control freaking Mordite, seems wrong. It's the idea that someone who might be able to stand up to Ebenezer "Facesmasher" McCoy in open combat is still a child with childish traits that creeps him out, which has nothing to do with her being called "Ivy."
I don't think there's anything significant about Harry giving her a name except that it makes Harry one of two people who treats her like a person. It's the beginning of their relationship. Her having human connections as a child with the power she has is dangerous. We see that in Small Favor, when she's willing to put herself and the Archive at risk to save him. It's the relationship itself that's important, not the circumstances that started it.
At least, that's my interpretation.
Talby16:
--- Quote from: Kindler on December 13, 2017, 02:40:17 PM ---It's not the name "Ivy" he finds creepy, it's her seeing Mister, shouting "KITTY!" and petting him. There is zero indication that this has anything to do with Harry calling her "Ivy," but everything to do with her thinking cats are fun to pet, which, considering that Ivy can easily control freaking Mordite, seems wrong. It's the idea that someone who might be able to stand up to Ebenezer "Facesmasher" McCoy in open combat is still a child with childish traits that creeps him out, which has nothing to do with her being called "Ivy."
I don't think there's anything significant about Harry giving her a name except that it makes Harry one of two people who treats her like a person. It's the beginning of their relationship. Her having human connections as a child with the power she has is dangerous. We see that in Small Favor, when she's willing to put herself and the Archive at risk to save him. It's the relationship itself that's important, not the circumstances that started it.
At least, that's my interpretation.
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Good interpretation. Thats the way I saw it too. An immortal knowledge repository became excited by a kitty because its host is a child.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Kindler on December 13, 2017, 02:40:17 PM ---It's not the name "Ivy" he finds creepy, it's her seeing Mister, shouting "KITTY!" and petting him. There is zero indication that this has anything to do with Harry calling her "Ivy," but everything to do with her thinking cats are fun to pet, which, considering that Ivy can easily control freaking Mordite, seems wrong. It's the idea that someone who might be able to stand up to Ebenezer "Facesmasher" McCoy in open combat is still a child with childish traits that creeps him out, which has nothing to do with her being called "Ivy."
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I read that as something she never did before that point. Kincaid isn't the sort of taciturn badass to let a reaction like that slip unless it was a surprise, IMO. And to my mind the thing wrong there is that Harry has just opened Ivy up to all sorts of vulnerabilities and Kincaid realises it instantly.
--- Quote ---I don't think there's anything significant about Harry giving her a name except that it makes Harry one of two people who treats her like a person.
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Names have power in the DV. We are told that all over the place, and shown it repeatedly. And Harry is really kind of prone to slinging them around, and we are told that it can have major consequences (cf, Lash).
Rasins:
--- Quote from: the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh on December 13, 2017, 07:52:00 PM ---Names have power in the DV. We are told that all over the place, and shown it repeatedly. And Harry is really kind of prone to slinging them around, and we are told that it can have major consequences (cf, Lash).
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or Uri vs Uriel
wardenferry419:
That definitely got him in a mood; and we never got the full reason why, have we?
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