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Book 17 Mirror Mirror? Rumor thread
Rasins:
--- Quote from: Foxed on January 04, 2018, 11:58:58 PM ---Favorite theory is still Gentleman John Marcone, Knight of the Cross.
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I don't see how that's possible.
Remember that the choice that Harry makes, that splits the timelines is in Grave Peril. Johnny Marcone is already a Bad-guy by that point. He'd have to make a serious change in his life outlook, based on a Change that Harry makes, for him to become a KotC.
Talby16:
--- Quote from: Kindler on January 09, 2018, 03:53:55 PM ---I think their role in a given book will largely depend on how involved Michael and Charity remain. Molly's side character arc involves her anxiety over withholding her current state from her family. I expect that to have some impact on Peace Talks, during which I'm fairly certain Molly will return to the forefront, considering it's an Unseelie Accords event. I doubt Jim will have that inevitable interaction happen off-page. Regardless, it would be a good opportunity to start involving the Carpenter kids more and developing characters a bit. We know Daniel the best, but almost nothing about Amanda aside from her relative calm, that she keeps her uniform on after school, and that she prefers "Hobbit" (which, to me, is a red flag, considering the vast number of Hobbit and Lord of the Rings references throughout the series—just like Goodman Grey recognizing the quote in Skin Game was a clue about his allegiance (cuz the bad guys never get Dresden's references).
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Could someone remind me of the LOTR quote Goodman Grey recognizes. My memory is foggy right now.
Rhetoric:
Did a quick skim through Grey's dialogue but I couldn't find any LOTR references. The most overt pop-culture reference he makes with Harry is during the bank break-in, before Tessa attacks Harry in the vault.
From Chapter 35:
--- Quote ---“If I wanted to shut this thing down,” I said, “I could have done it pretty much anytime in the past twenty minutes.” I shifted to a maniacally indeterminate European accent and said, “We’re going through.”
“The Black Hole?” Grey asked, incredulously. “Nobody quotes The Black Hole, Dresden. Nobody even remembers that one.”
“Hogwash. Ernest Borgnine, Anthony Perkins, and Roddy McDowall all in the same movie? Immortality.”
“Roddy McDowall was just the voice of the robot.”
“Yeah. And the robots were awesome.”
“Cheap Star Wars knockoffs,” Grey sneered.
“Not necessarily mutually exclusive,” I said.
“I wasn’t worried about you scrubbing the mission,” he said. “I was thinking you might indulge yourself in a little Robin Hood action against this Marcone character.”
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Kindler:
--- Quote from: Rhetoric on January 10, 2018, 04:44:51 AM ---Did a quick skim through Grey's dialogue but I couldn't find any LOTR references. The most overt pop-culture reference he makes with Harry is during the bank break-in, before Tessa attacks Harry in the vault.
From Chapter 35:
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That's the one I was talking about. Sorry, I was unclear; I meant Harry's references to everything, not just Lord of the Rings. None of the bad guys get his jokes.
Talby16:
--- Quote from: Kindler on January 10, 2018, 07:45:51 PM ---That's the one I was talking about. Sorry, I was unclear; I meant Harry's references to everything, not just Lord of the Rings. None of the bad guys get his jokes.
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That is the common theme. All those pop culture references fly right over the bad guys heads. I liked the moment in Cold Days when Bob made a pop culture reference that Harry didn't get and it upset hum.
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