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Unsolved Mystery Book11 Shaggy snacks
jonas:
--- Quote from: apgrey on December 05, 2017, 07:00:48 PM --- Someone suggested in an old thread that perhaps Shagnasty was the skinwalker that Morgan nuked. He survived it, and over time was able to reform. However, it would provide a strong reason for him to be pissed off at Morgan.
It was also suggested that Shagnasty's attack on Raith manor was to help Madelaine escape. That is, she heard about Harry and Luccio visiting, and made a phone call asking for help.
APG
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Due to the lack of memory on the Naag's part i'd disagree... but it's entirely possible one of his kids inherited his power upon his immortal death I suppose.. which reminds me of Grey...
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Rasins on November 08, 2017, 04:33:20 PM ---Cowl.
Cowl is Peabody's handler, like it was Madrigal's handler.
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So why was he interested in collecting copies of Die Lied der Erlking if he was in the same 'cell' of the Circle as Peabody and actively running him as an agent? Why not just ask him?
Just trying to deny the book to the other Heirs of Kemmler doesn't necessarily make sense, because his strategy was that it doesn't have to be him that summons the Hunt; he just wanted to highjack the ritual at the end.
As for whether the skinwalker Morgan lured into the atomic test was Shaggy, I have to agree that the fact it treated Morgan as essentially just a job to do rather than a personal vendetta suggests otherwise.
Six of them being locked up in the Well certainly weighs in favour of interpreting skinwalkers as among the beings who can reform after physical destruction, but it's possible previous Wardens who tangled with them simply found it easier to imprison them than put together sufficient energy to overwhelm their defenses by brute force. If the latter possibility is correct, that might actually be the difference between the "minimum security" central area and the peripheral tunnels.
wardenferry419:
--- Quote from: Kindler on December 06, 2017, 02:16:05 PM ---You think Shaggy was working for Lara or Luccio? Or targeting/distracting them?
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I think Lara or Luccio was the one that Harry was discussing a theory with about Shagnasty and his motives for being at Raith Manor.
the neurovore of Zur-En-Aargh:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on December 06, 2017, 08:13:36 PM ---So why was he interested in collecting copies of Die Lied der Erlking if he was in the same 'cell' of the Circle as Peabody and actively running him as an agent? Why not just ask him?
Just trying to deny the book to the other Heirs of Kemmler doesn't necessarily make sense, because his strategy was that it doesn't have to be him that summons the Hunt; he just wanted to highjack the ritual at the end.
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I think that only makes sense if the whole thing is a ruse; Cowl and Mavra had the Erlking book all along, they release it into the wild and get the word spread, and hooray, the White Council and the other Kemmlerites start wiping each other out over it.
--- Quote ---As for whether the skinwalker Morgan lured into the atomic test was Shaggy, I have to agree that the fact it treated Morgan as essentially just a job to do rather than a personal vendetta suggests otherwise.
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I don't know about that, revenge being a dish best served cold and all; not going into a cackling gloating frenzy over getting to hunt Morgan down could just indicate that the thing is competent.
Bacchus:
--- Quote ---I don't know about that, revenge being a dish best served cold and all; not going into a cackling gloating frenzy over getting to hunt Morgan down could just indicate that the thing is competent.
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the counter argument would be that based on how the nagalosshi treated Thomas would indicate that he would threaten and gloat and make it personal.
Dresden pissed him off so he went out of his way to mentally destroy thomas and bragged about it to Dresden,
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