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Unsolved Mystery Book4 Why now, Elaine?

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Arjan:

--- Quote from: jonas on November 19, 2017, 10:30:53 PM ---B to the mutha F'n I.N.G.O!

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I believe I have some barriere here.

--- Quote ---It's cool to have barriers, it's not cool not to understand that you have said barriers or that others have their own.

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It can be easier to see other peoples barriers than your own.

forumghost:

--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on November 19, 2017, 10:26:22 PM ---Some behavior I can chalk up to general indifference... but, pulling a door handle at 8:45am when the door sign ( which has not changed in over 10 years) says we open at 9:30 and the neon CLOSED light is on. Or thinking half off of 4.99 is $2. And, these are people that come to the store at least once a week.

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Not that bad. I've known people to come down to my work before the store opens, come in and flip the sign, and sit down expecting to be served 30 min early because "We're here so you have to be open now".

Although that's more a case of them being Assholes then idiots

wardenferry419:

--- Quote from: Arjan on November 19, 2017, 10:35:24 PM ---Ah the wishfull thinking fallacy. They just want the shop to be open because they took some time getting there and told themself the shop was open before they started their journey. Admitting the shop is closed means admitting their effort was for nothing and maybe even admitting some stupidity. Not losing face is more important than logical thinking anyway.

And of course 5/2=2 if you have to pay for something otherwise it is 3. Real stupidity is when it works against you. :-)

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I have to disagree with you here. I expect to lose face and am prepared to lose face when I act in an incorrect or idiotic manner. I welcome more logic in my life. There is either shortage of accountability or I am getting old. LOL

jonas:

--- Quote from: Arjan on November 19, 2017, 10:39:15 PM ---I believe I have some barriere here.It can be easier to see other peoples barriers than your own.

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Sure, but easy to remember everybody has some. Finding things is so much easier if you assume there's something to find... or at least don't remain in blissful ignorance to it.

Arjan:

--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on November 19, 2017, 11:27:18 PM ---I have to disagree with you here. I expect to lose face and am prepared to lose face when I act in an incorrect or idiotic manner. I welcome more logic in my life. There is either shortage of accountability or I am getting old. LOL

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Only if you admit to yourself and others you are acting in a idiotic manner. The trick is to act so sincere and convincingly that the other party thinks he is wrong. It helps if you believe it yourself so really convincing lying starts with lying to yourself.

So never admit you did something wrong even if all evidence stacks against you.

It is related to what a colleague once said to me at work decades ago when I was young and innocent. Never admit you do not know something or can not do something, just try to figure it out on the fly. I assime it was a joke but I am not quite sure.

It actually has a sound evolutionary basis. It is not about being right but about being put in the right. That is why power can let you get away with all sorts of stupid statements and reality won’t always catch up with you. Even worse repeating stupidity shows loyalty. Sometimes stupidity is not about logic but about power. If you sincerely believe in someone elses stupidity you show great loyalty.

Or more generally how will stupidity help someone to survive and prosper in the short term? Even at the cost of everyone else, science, logic, mental health and survival of the human species in the long run.

Even worse in a magical universe when the powerful can make their stupidity true.

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