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Will Harry meet the real Maeve?
Kindler:
I think Maeve was infected in Summer Knight. I don't think Aurora was necessarily infected at all. We only have Lily's testimony on the matter, and Maeve—so really, just Maeve, considering how much she had manipulated Lily. Personally, I think that Nemesis had begun working on Maeve, but did it slower and more deliberately, over time; Sith wasn't done properly, which is why Nemesis had to take full control. I think Nemesis used Maeve's impotence in Summer Knight (like when she could barely control Lloyd) to manipulate her more—and Harry's flippant attitude didn't help.
Molly said that the best way to screw with someone's mind is to just enhance personality traits. I think that's what Nemesis was doing. She was always cruel, but Nemesis made her crueler.
As for the mad twinkle, I think that's specifically an indication of when Maeve lies, not a blanket sign of infection, if that makes sense.
Summer Knight is also the last book we see Lea on page before she's imprisoned, and she'd already sold Harry's debt. I take that as a sign that she had been busily spreading the infection.
Cozarkian:
Aurora's compassion for humanity was enhanced in exactly the way you described. She did something that should have been impossible (betrayed summer and tried to destroy it) and Titania admits that Aurora's death was necessary. I think that is substantial evidence she was infected.
Lea still has the Athame in SK - she sold Harry's debt to balance the scales of power so she could keep it and she isn't imprisoned until after SK. That means Lea could still be infecting people in SK and suggests she wasn't caught until after the book.
--- Quote from: Arjan on November 09, 2017, 05:39:52 AM ---Except that Aurora must have gotten the infection from someone and Maeve is the logical link ith the athame.
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Why is Maeve the logical link when Lea had the Athame?
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Cozarkian on November 09, 2017, 02:18:12 PM ---Aurora's compassion for humanity was enhanced in exactly the way you described. She did something that should have been impossible (betrayed summer and tried to destroy it) and Titania admits that Aurora's death was necessary. I think that is substantial evidence she was infected.
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Very good point.
--- Quote ---Lea still has the Athame in SK - she sold Harry's debt to balance the scales of power so she could keep it and she isn't imprisoned until after SK. That means Lea could still be infecting people in SK and suggests she wasn't caught until after the book.
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True enough. I just don't see any personality difference between Summer Knight Maeve and Cold Days Maeve. They act perfectly consistently with one another, except there is conclusive proof that she lies as of Proven Guilty, and there's nothing to disprove anything she says in Summer Knight.
Cozarkian:
I don't think there was a personality difference. Maeve was perfect for Nemesis because she was already cruel and resentful. I think she formed a willing alliance with Nemesis like Anduriel/Nicodemus while in other instances Nemesis uses brute Force (Cat Sith) to take over his victim (Ursiel) or subtle manipulation while remaining concealed (Aurora) like Lash/Shiela tried with Harry.
Rasins:
When you consider that Maeve had already been avoiding performing her duties, the real difference between SK Maeve and DB or CD Maeve is that she was able to lie.
And didn't Mab confirm in CD that it was Leah who infected Maeve through the Athame? Or did she just confirm that it was the Athame?
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