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Mab/Murphy Ironies
raidem:
We already had a form of Time Travel at least according to one of the characters in the series, Murphy, and it resulted in her demotion.
--- Quote ---She wiped at her mouth and looked at her watch. She tucked the last of her sandwich between her lips, and then started resetting the watch while she chewed.
“Gone almost exactly twenty-four hours. So we did some kind of time travel?” she asked.
“Oh, God no,” I said. “That’s on the list of Things One Does Not Do. It’s one of the seven Laws of Magic.”
“Maybe,” she said. “But however it happened, a whole day just went poof.
That’s time travel.”
“People are doing that kind of time travel all the time,” I said. “We just pulled into the passing lane for a while.”
She finished setting the watch and grimaced. “All the same.”
I frowned at her. “You okay?”
She looked up at the children and their mother. “I’m going to have one hell of a time explaining where I’ve been for the past twenty-four hours. It isn’t as though I can tell my boss that I went time traveling.”
“Yeah, he’d never buy it. Tell him you invaded Faerieland to rescue a young woman from a monster-infested castle.”
“Of course,” she said. “Why didn’t I think of that?”
I grunted. “Is it going to make trouble for you?”
She frowned for a moment and then said, “Intradepartmental discipline, probably.
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So, it's possible that Team Harry (time travelers) enter the mortal world during those 24 hours in which Harry's team were off in the NeverNever.
Again, it would allow Murphy to be involved in time traveling, another detail to support TTMurphy theories.
raidem:
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maybe it could be all the missing clues I need for my Mab=Murphy theory.
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If I don't have them, nobody does lol.
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lol. I cleared another hurdle today. At least on Reddit I did. I had assumed on this website I didn't need to argue it.
Someone argued that no Murphy couldn't be Mab because they don't look like each other. Or that TTHarry would have to change how TTMurphy looks thousand+ years ago.
I responded that no, the Queen Mantles (including Lady's) would/could morph a person's appearance into the Mab personified 'look'.
--- Quote ---[4:37 PM] raidem: I had this question, and some of my theories depend on it. I assumed Mab's mantle morph's her original appearance to that of Mab's mask over a period of time. We know from Bob that Molly over time will be similar in behavior to Maeve as the mantle tends to bend the individual in that given direction. Is there a similar bend in one's physical appearance over time too?
[4:46 PM] raidem: Lily's hair changed upon becoming Summer Lady "Her hair had been pulled back into a ponytail. And it had turned snow white." in SK
[4:50 PM] raidem: And if I hadn’t known better, if I hadn’t known Lily’s features well enough to be sure it was her, I would have sworn that I was looking at Aurora, the Summer Lady I’d murdered at the stone table. [CD]
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So, Murphy would be Winter Lady, for how long I don't know (WOJ our Mab as a Winter Lady chose Lea to be her handmaiden). Her appearance would have to already begun to shift. And, then some sudden set of events that aligned with the last time things got awful in the wizarding world, it ended with at least both Mab and Titania dying, who else we don't know, which allowed our Mab, our Titania to assume the mantle of Queen roughly around the time of the Battle of Hastings. Around that time, Mab and Titania stop speaking. Give us 1000+ years and I don't think we can assume we would be able to identify that Murphy that had been Mab for 1000+ years is our Murphy. They'd look totally different. So, that is one thing my theory counts on, a mask for Queen Mab that camouflages her identity, which will stun us when it is revealed.
raidem:
The other hurdle that I've addressed on Reddit regards the Lady's self defense against either sex or pregnancy. Many people want to assume that the Lady mantle only can go to a true virgin.
I argued that Molly may have had sex between when she hadn't gone the whole way (said so in one book) to the time she took up the mantle. (ambiguous)
I argued that Sarissa surely in her 150+ years had has sex. Others argued that she didn't have sex in fear that they'd be pawns used against her, Mab, etc.
I got tired of arguments so I brought up Lily, who admitted to being raped by Slate. Who Maeve admitted to allowing Slate to take. There is extremely high evidence that Lily had sex, and that in fact she did become the Summer Lady, so in fact there is no "Virgin" requirement imposed to be a Lady. Only one that is imposed on you while Lady.
The cleared hurdle I take from this is that, yes Murphy is eligible for the Lady mantle if prepared even though she has had sex, though no children.
peregrine:
That assumes that the same rules apply for the Winter and Summer ladies. It's possible that the Summer Lady need not be a virgin. She almost certainly doesn't have the same conflicting impulses of wanting to but being unable to, mate.
That said, while it makes some kind of thematic sense, there's nothing whatsoever in the books to strongly argue for it, it's never really come up.
wardenferry419:
I would believe that Summer Ladies are more coquette and demure with their attractions then Winter Ladies; each manner would be appealing to masculine mentality.
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