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Wizard strength level
jonas:
--- Quote from: dspringer1 on October 06, 2017, 08:56:12 PM ---Sure Mother Winter is a cosmic powerhouse. But that does not tell us anything about the other gods. They might also be cosmic powerhouses too.
Evidence: Many indications in the books
* Hades refers to Lady/queen/Mother as Hecate - which is a fellow goddess of the Olympian pantheon. In that panethon,, Hades was considered far more powerful. And there are many gods and many pantheons.
* Many references to gods as beings that touch many worlds. Some very powerful gods might only very lightly (or not at all) touch the Dresden world. That this the whole point of the Oblivion war - to prevent bad gods from touching our world. If they barely touch our world, then the effective power they can apply in our world must be a lot smaller. That does not mean the god or goddess is (overall) weaker.
* No evidence at all that Mother Winter is more powerful than major gods - unless you argue that the lords of outer night were gods. There is clearly evidence of lesser godlike beings like Odin (who accepted growing weaker for more ability to influence the mortal world), lords of outer night, Earlking, etc. But none of these claimed to be a major god.
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Besides Hades, which major god have we seen? Hades was, perhaps, greater than Hecate. But MW isn't just Hecate, and she by herself isn't even Hecate. She's also the unmaker, Atropos(a literal fate who had power over other gods in Greek Lore too, including Hades) a fae Mother, ect. ect. Considering Hades has no following and no new masks that we know of i'd tend to give more to MW anyway(and no proof Hades is multidimensional either btw)
*plus one God to compare her to doesn't make her 'middling' by any statistical claim you could create statistical 'lies' with either. Not trying to knock your idea, but your basically supplying her middling power based off of what we don't know, when what we DO know implies something different.
wardenferry419:
Hades may have been greater once; but, is he still as powerful as in the past? Mab is very much an active force. Hades seems semi-retired.
exartiem:
Masks can alter how powerful a being is. Vadderung as Odin may be more powerful than Kringle.
In the pantheons, all the gods draw from the same source. How close they are to that source determines how powerful they are. Zeus is in control of that source, so he is the most powerful, Poseidon and Hades close behind. Hecate is farther from Zeus, so she has less access to that power source.
In her MW mask, she is far closer to the Winter power source, so she is way more powerful, more like Zeus. If Hecate went against Hades on his turf she would lose. If Hades went against MW on her turf, he would lose.
TheCuriousFan:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on October 06, 2017, 03:46:54 PM ---I imagine there's an upper limit to how much power a wizard can generate on his own. The upper limit is probably very variable, so Harry probably has a higher upper limit than Molly would have, and it certainly goes up with age, so Harry at 150 can generate a lot more personal power than Harry as he is now.
I think there's probably no upper limit, however, to how much power they can use -- that power just has to come from somewhere else, like leylines, sacrifices, deals and so on. I think you get into reality warping with people who have made such deals or have otherwise found some way to supplement their own power.
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Oh, that got confirmed?
jonas:
--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on October 07, 2017, 12:17:34 AM ---Oh, that got confirmed?
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Isn't there already a woj to the opposite? can I once more call upon TheCuriousFan for Woj assistance?
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