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Uriel's Second "Small Favor"
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: Rhetoric on September 28, 2017, 02:01:05 PM ---Uriel implies that another archangel entirely was responsible for the second act. Or the first act. Strictly speaking, we don't which Sign Uriel responded to, as Dresden only gains Soulfire after both Signs are lifted.
Uriel also says the other archangel responded "overtly and immediately." Mab then goes on to say how Uriel is by nature the most subtle of the four archangels, and that when Michael and Gabriel in particular operate, they like to be noticed.
So if this other act was so overt, executed by an archangel generally less subtle than Uriel... then how come we didn't notice it?
I think the answer is simple: It happens somewhere Harry (and thus the reader) cannot see it.
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The "overt and immediately" Archangel is Lucifer, and his investment of strength was the greater circles that the Denarians used.
The other Archangel is Uriel, and he's referring specifically to the gift of Soulfire, which is why Harry's hand starts tingling, as a balance against Lucifer's power.
Rhetoric:
--- Quote from: Froklsnt on September 28, 2017, 02:29:59 PM ---And Dresden got the soulfire right before the second circle goes up, not after. He did a drive by routine on Namshiel while he was running full bore to get inside the circle.
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You right, my b.
--- Quote from: Froklsnt on September 28, 2017, 02:29:59 PM ---If we pull up the greater context of that quote, the archangel who acted "overtly and immediately" is Lucifer. Uriel is contrasting his own style with Lucifer's.
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I disagree. "Immediately" makes no sense in that context. Immediately after what? In response to what? Not to mention, what about the other circle?
--- Quote ---I stood up and jabbed a finger at the podium, suddenly furious, and screamed, “The Prince of fucking Darkness gets to cheat and unload his power on the earth—twice!—and You just sit there being holy while my friend, who has fought for You his whole life, is dying! What the hell is wrong with You?”
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Lucifer acted twice in Small Favor, ergo heavenly archangels were allowed to act twice.
Snark Knight:
I tend to think the second offsetting action was to help Michael survive to retire crippled, instead of dying in surgery.
The doctor who operated on him even commented that he'd done better than he realistically ought to have, given how badly he was hurt.
jonas:
--- Quote from: Rhetoric on September 28, 2017, 02:58:50 PM ---You right, my b.
I disagree. "Immediately" makes no sense in that context. Immediately after what? In response to what? Not to mention, what about the other circle?
Lucifer acted twice in Small Favor, ergo heavenly archangels were allowed to act twice.
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Or invest the same amount of power in balance. Which means some are just underestimating just how much it took to grant soul fire. What precisely he did to accomplish the feat and how it effected Dresden long term. Besides... he coulda actually saved back a 'dice roll' and used it elsewhere without our knowledge. ^^ see above for good example.
Cozarkian:
--- Quote from: Rhetoric on September 28, 2017, 02:58:50 PM ---Lucifer acted twice in Small Favor, ergo heavenly archangels were allowed to act twice.
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I'm not sure that is accurate. Lucifer may have granted one gift - access to his power to complete their plan, which includes both the test and the real target because both were necessary to the plan.
Uriel responded with a more clever gift - giving Harry the ability to access a power source Harry already had but couldn't use - his soul, which allowed the access to be permanent.
That said, I used to think Uriel saved Lash and put a part of her back inside Harry which was the source of the soulfire and would give her a chance at redemption. The Bonnie reveal nixed that idea, but I suppose I could have been partially right and Uriel put Bonnie inside Harry as a second favor.
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