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bonies conception is in the book small favors

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Froklsnt:
Fascinating idea, but I don't think it's the moment of conception, as Con stated above. Harry's guitar playing at the end of White Night is after Lash died, but clearly shows another presence in his head almost immediately after her death. But it seems safe to assume that Jim was deliberately foreshadowing, and that perhaps Bonnie helped put that idea into Harry's head, as a way to prepare him / make her presence known.

Actually, I think Id Harry is a better candidate for putting that thought in Harry's mind. Id Harry knows all about Bonnie, and it's well established that he's responsible for a lot of Harry's intuition. Even if conscious Harry didn't get it at the time, it was a good way to prime him.

dspringer1:
The act of creation was at the point where Harry was held fast by the will of the Outsiders in the Grotto and Lash sacrificed herself to allow him to act.  It was her one act of selfless love -- and thus the spark of creation in this matter.  Whether Uriel helped or not is irrelevant in my mind.  She choose. 

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: pcpoet on September 28, 2017, 07:28:40 AM ---and if lash had remained lash when nicodemus commanded her to stop Dresden as lashiels shadow she would f had to listen.

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I don't agree with that. Lash didn't have to obey anyone by the end - she literally could not have chosen to take the bullet for Harry if she wasn't capable of defying the purposes of the original Fallen by that point.

Besides which, with the Fallen acting at cross-purposes as often as cooperating, how would Nic have had command authority over another Fallen's shadow? He expected to be obeyed because as far as he was concerned, the shadow was still trying to turn Harry - essentially, he figured the shadow would go along with his plan to paralyze Harry and carry him away because it would help her agenda. It's not that he has a compulsion over all shadows, it's that he was banking Lasciel still had a compulsion over Lash.

khadgar4606:
correct me if i wrong but did lash said healing from the wound but takes time so my theory is lash is still in the harrys mind but way to deep that no one knows where she is except bonnie which she move to new home

Kindler:

--- Quote from: khadgar4606 on September 29, 2017, 08:08:10 AM ---correct me if i wrong but did lash said healing from the wound but takes time so my theory is lash is still in the harrys mind but way to deep that no one knows where she is except bonnie which she move to new home

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If I understand you correctly, you're saying that after White Night, Lash withdrew deep into Harry's brain to recover from her nonfatal wounds? Wasn't this disproved by Bonnie's birth? I was under the impression that she was created because Lash was destroyed, and that the sacrifice (meaning terminal) was a necessary part of her conception.

Tangential but related to the thread topic: how did Bob miss Bonnie's presence? He gives Harry an examination at the end of Small Favor and remarks that bits of his soul are missing from using Soulfire. Shouldn't he have seen another entity growing in his head? Especially if she's like Bob, and kind of tuned into the same wavelength?

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