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Marcone's Age @ SF
raidem:
Great Find Wardenferry419 and rhetoric; It has now been established Shootout occurred 3 years BSF
--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on September 27, 2017, 11:52:41 AM ---I did a quick check on the shooting and Murphy says in SF Chapter 15 that Amanda was shot 3 years prior. So, that would put it in a 95 to 97 timeframe.
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--- Quote ---Murphy's jaw tensed, little motions at the corners of her face. Then she said, "Greg and Helen Beckitt. Three years ago, their daughter, Amanda, was killed in a cross fire.
Johnny Marcone's thugs were shooting it out with some of the Jamaican gang that was trying to muscle in on the territory back then. One of them shot the little girl. She lived for three weeks in intensive care and died when they took her off life support."
I didn't say anything. But I thought of Mrs. Beckitt's numb face and dead eyes.
"The Beckitts attempted to lodge a wrongful death suit against Johnny Marcone, but Marcone's lawyers were too good. They got it thrown out before it even went to court. And they never found the man who shot the little girl. Word has it that Marcone offered to pay them blood money. Make reparation. But they turned him down."
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Rhetoric:
... Yeah, great job.
raidem:
Ok, let's review...
He had this appearance in a soulgaze between Harry and Demeter looking back years prior to WK, years prior to SF according to Priscilla's timeline. (3 years BSF)
--- Quote ---I looked over my shoulder to see a very, very young-looking Marcone.
He wasn't wearing a business suit. He had on jeans and a black leather jacket. His hair was longish, a little mussed, and he also sported a stubble of beard that gave him the kind of rakish look that would attract attention from the girls who fantasized about indulging with a bad boy.
His eyes were still green—but they were the green of a summer hunter's blind, bright and intelligent and predatory, but touched with more… something. Humor, maybe. More life.
And he was skinnier. Not a lot skinnier or anything, but it surprised me how much younger it and the other minor changes made him look. [Age:?] [BSF]
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In 3 years time come Storm Front, Marcone looks like this in his interaction with Harry...
--- Quote ---Gentleman Johnny Marcone didn't look like the sort of man who would have my legs broken or my jaw wired shut. His salt-and-pepper hair was cut short, and there were lines from sun and smiling etched into the corners of his eyes. His eyes were the green of well-worn dollar bills. He seemed more like a college football coach: good-looking, tanned, athletic, and enthusiastic. The impression was reinforced by the men he kept with him.
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So, Amanda Beckitt's apparent age in soulgaze at time of shooting is 10 to 11. Her age in Death Masks when Harry follows Marcone to a nursing home is described as late teens, early twenties. DM occurs ~6 years after her shooting, maybe a little more than that if Jim isn't so hard on keeping to a strict timeline. I'd have Amanda's birth at around 13 or 14 BSF if Harry's perception of Amanda via soulgaze is correct. So she would be (16-17) or late teens not early twenties come Harry seeing her in DM.
Mira:
--- Quote from: raidem on September 27, 2017, 03:36:56 PM ---Ok, let's review...
He had this appearance in a soulgaze between Harry and Demeter looking back years prior to WK, years prior to SF according to Priscilla's timeline. (3 years BSF)In 3 years time come Storm Front, Marcone looks like this in his interaction with Harry...
So, Amanda Beckitt's apparent age in soulgaze at time of shooting is 10 to 11. Her age in Death Masks when Harry follows Marcone to a nursing home is described as late teens, early twenties. DM occurs ~6 years after her shooting, maybe a little more than that if Jim isn't so hard on keeping to a strict timeline. I'd have Amanda's birth at around 13 or 14 BSF if Harry's perception of Amanda via soulgaze is correct. So she would be (16-17) or late teens not early twenties come Harry seeing her in DM.
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Yeah, that kind of wear and tear screams late thirties early forties, or a man in his late prime. Depending on genes and lifestyle many men can look like that well into their early sixties as of Skin Game.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: wardenferry419 on September 27, 2017, 11:52:41 AM ---I did a quick check on the shooting and Murphy says in SF Chapter 15 that Amanda was shot 3 years prior. So, that would put it in a 95 to 97 timeframe.
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That doesn't make much sense. Harry saw Marcone in the memory, and commented on how very, very young he looked. Which would only be 3 years younger than he was in SF. Which is when he looked like he was in his forties. Even if he was 40 in SF, and 37 during the shooting, and he had a lot of stress that aged him, he still wouldn't look very, very young to Harry.
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