The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Has Eb already chosen his successor? If he has, who?
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on September 21, 2017, 04:53:54 PM ---Time travel included. The mindset of someone willing to change the past, regardless of the consequences to reality, is just as corrupted as someone that would mess with someone's head.
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Not to mention the addictive nature of black magic (as explained by Harry); someone goes back to yesterday to move their car to avoid a parking ticket, and when there aren't any consequences, they go back a week earlier to fix something else, a bit bigger, and so on, until they decide that yeah, they should totally kill Hitler, and reality is unmade as a result.
Pretty sure Merlin would have had to do some kind of time travel when he made Demonreach, even if it was something weird like stepping outside of time to observe it from the outside.That might have made Harry's assumption that he was a jerk more accurate than he realized.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on September 21, 2017, 03:54:10 PM ---I'd argue that "invade" and "trespass" are two different things. Invading a mind, as the law mentions, would seem to imply a certain level of aggressive activity. Molly's actions in TC are more in line with trespassing; she entered without permission, but didn't do anything to the"victim".
Just entering the mind doesn't have a corruption, or their newly established practices would be corrupting them. So there would seem to be a difference.
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Believe you are right. Technically didn't the Merlin enter people's minds to direct orders when Peabody was trying to escape?
raidem:
I think the laws are meant to restrain wizards mainly per reason black council is rebelling. They have also served additional purpose to prevent corruption. I'm not sure which is most important in why they were made: restraint or corruption.
There is a WOJ that THE MERLIN wouldn't approve of the how the White Council has dealt with the Laws, at least in some ways.
groinkick:
--- Quote from: raidem on September 21, 2017, 07:00:36 PM ---I think the laws are meant to restrain wizards mainly per reason black council is rebelling. They have also served additional purpose to prevent corruption. I'm not sure which is most important in why they were made: restraint or corruption.
There is a WOJ that THE MERLIN wouldn't approve of the how the White Council has dealt with the Laws, at least in some ways.
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I believe he compared it to real life government that has good intentions but basically goes too far. Compared it to someone building an extended roof on a barn so a horse can be out of the rain and the government orders you to rip it down because you didn't get permission to do it.
I'd guess that the original Merlin would do more to help people who have screwed up, rather than chop their heads off. Unlike Mab or Langtry who believes that laws are absolute , I think the Merlin may have seen the laws as a guide line to make the world better, not to kill every offender.
dspringer1:
We are back to one of the classic points of disagreement on the forum. Are the Laws of Magic something that both defines and designed primarily to block black magic, or are the Laws Of Magic primarily designed to constrain wizards from engaging in dangerous activities/dominating humanity which can include black magic.
The only definitive statement in the text was the merlin or luccio (not sure which) stating that the laws of magic are intended to constrain wizards and protect regular humans from wizards. And it is absolutely clear that at least some uses of magic the laws prohibit are clearly very black magic. So there is enough evidence that can be brought to bear to keep both sides confident in the opinion.
I am personally of the opinion that the laws of magic are about more than black magic, but restricting black magic is certainly a very good way to constrain wizards and protect regular humans from wizards. But I am just one footsoldier in the vast armies that have lined up on both sides of this debate :)
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