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A new idea on Kemmler returning

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groinkick:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on September 14, 2017, 04:20:20 AM ---Well, there's WOJ that the Council killed Kemmler exceedingly thoroughly the last time they caught up to him. If standard vampire folklore is a reliable guide, I'm not sure an already dead corpse is a viable substrate for them to turn - they might need the victim alive to start the process.

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With the Red Court you're right I think.  But Mavra for example is a corpse.  So I think that perhaps the person is probably dead.  That being said there might not have been much of Kemmler left to bring back. 

dspringer1:
Nice idea.  but I simply do not believe Kemmler will show up in any story.  He is backstory, not a protagonist.   

The one exception might be the time travel book, but even that is a stretch.  It would only make sense if Harry ends up stopping briefly in a number of critical points in time.  Otherwise, why else would Harry need to travel to the 1960s or so when Kemmler was killed for the last time. 

Snark Knight:

--- Quote from: groinkick on September 14, 2017, 04:25:38 AM ---With the Red Court you're right I think.  But Mavra for example is a corpse.  So I think that perhaps the person is probably dead.  That being said there might not have been much of Kemmler left to bring back.

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From what we saw of turning new ones in It's My Birthday Too and from One-Ear's attempt to turn Lara in BR, they work with a live victim too. The new blampire then begins to look decomposed over time (One-Ear implied he'd enjoy raping Lara while she still looks lovely 'for a little while' before rot sets in).

Though I suspect Elders might eventually recover the ability to pass for human they want to, since Stoker's book downplayed Dracula from corpsey to merely emaciated looking.

Rasins:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on September 14, 2017, 03:39:37 PM ---From what we saw of turning new ones in It's My Birthday Too and from One-Ear's attempt to turn Lara in BR, they work with a live victim too. The new blampire then begins to look decomposed over time (One-Ear implied he'd enjoy raping Lara while she still looks lovely 'for a little while' before rot sets in).

Though I suspect Elders might eventually recover the ability to pass for human they want to, since Stoker's book downplayed Dracula from corpsey to merely emaciated looking.

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However, when you consider that Kemmler was a Necromancer, it's possible there is something more afoot.

kazimmoinuddin:
I have this theory that the dark hollow ritual could be adapted to use the BCV as a source. If the BCV can be affected by necromancy, they could be a power source. Necromancy works best with older bodies created via violence. If the BCV are the result of necromancy, then they would be perfect for further magics.

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