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groinkick:
Pissed off Harry if he had taken up a Coin.

jonas:

--- Quote from: TheCuriousFan on September 15, 2017, 02:51:43 AM ---For most people, your head would break before a an elevator door got dented like that, afaict he didn't even get a concussion.
For most people, deep scratches from claws take a fair bit longer than a day or two to heal, it's not super healing but it's noticeably faster than normal.

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Huh, I probably dismissed the elevator thing offhand between what the Mantle did when ace took a bat to his wigglers and the fact he just got a groovy head ache suppressing magical earring, I assume he just didn't feel concussed. The healing thing is interesting though, definitely not his usual wizardly healing factor there.

isoycrazy:
I am reminded of a line from the comics of the cartoon Gargoyles, from the mid 1990s.  In it, a reawakened King Arthur notes that many myths are based in fact, but few myths are accurate.

If we take the Dresden-Bible as a long accounting of myths, a long story translated and mistranslated over centuries, not everything should be taken as absolutely correct.    What Pharaoh was doing and what was done to him is all speculation.  Add in, if the Greek Gods exist, dollars to donuts so did the Egyptian Gods of that time.  We just don't know their plot in what Pharaoh did.

As for which path was the least evil, I still favor Mab in that she is a controlled person. She doesn't like waste and stupidity.  The killing of many uninvolved brings unwanted attention.  Several of her former Knights were serial killers.  Some of those kills could have been by the Knight's own choosing, and their stupidity brought in the mortal police who dispatched him.

Nicodemus encourages stupidity, he encourages people to believe he is a savior while he maims them and has his daughter rip out their tongues.  He keeps them locked up, ignorant, frightened and alone.  And he's been doing it for thousands of years.

Ulfgeir:

--- Quote from: Snark Knight on September 14, 2017, 06:22:38 PM ---The one about angels being absolute was recent. I can't place the source right now - it was older than DragonCon, but I think it was one of the Q&A's this year or late last.

Would you happen to remember where the TWG as a mantle that may have changed hands was from? I had some vague memories of a comment like TWG is the eternal creator of the universe, but wasn't always. I've been trying to find that one again for a while to confirm what exactly was said, but I haven't been able to find it. Somebody else remembering something along those general lines makes me wonder if maybe the Fall was precipitated by the creator mantle changing hands and some of the angels resenting the change in management.

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I think I vaguely recall the WoJ you refer to and it was someting to the effect that TWG could be seen as a mantle, and that we woould not know if said being were the original one holding that position. Where is  Serack when we need him for a proper quote? ;)

/ULfgeir

Arjan:

--- Quote ---She let out a cold little laugh. "Such arrogance. Do you think you could change the eternal, mortal? I was brought to life by the Word of the Almighty himself, for a purpose so complex and fundamental that you could not begin to comprehend it. You are nothing, mortal. You are a flickering spark. You will be here, and be gone, and in the aeons that come after, when your very kind have dwindled and perished, you will be but one of uncounted legions of those whom I have seduced and destroyed." Her eyes narrowed. "You. Cannot. Change. Me."
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You do not have to bother with what Nicodemus says about his goals or what a 2000 years brainwashed Deirdre says about their goals. The one really in charge is the fallen whatever Nicodemus might think. Their real goals, whatever they say, are the goals of the fallen. The rest is lure for Nicodemus, even if it did not start that way.

So about Nicodemus and their ilk. Their goals are evil, their methods are evil and they are absolutely not interested in reducing the collateral damage. They are absolutely on topin the list of evil beings Harry met. Maybe just below shagnasty or so. Mab is not even close. She has a benign purpose and a complete summer court to keep her in line. She is bound to rules that keep her somewhat in line so she does not come close.

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