The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Which absent villian will appear in Peace Talks?
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: kazimmoinuddin on October 01, 2017, 02:21:38 PM ---Were the Eebs the ones who took Maggie and slaughtered her foster family? Such a personal link would make them a good chance to reappear to torment Maggie, and for her to see her father deal with the monsters of her nightmares.
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I don't think we know. Given their methodology, I'd say it's a good possibility.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: deflated on October 02, 2017, 05:41:41 PM ---Don't see it. Winter rolls right over RC or Council without blinking. Summer the same.
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They can...except that they can't. The weird rules that bind the Sidhe mean that they can only bring their full power to bear in limited cases. Yeah, they've got the raw juice to defeat the Council, but are hamstrung in using it, and the Council is strong enough to make crushing them expensive, even for the Fairie Courts.
Among the non-Sidhe supernatural states, the Council is one of the Big Dogs.
--- Quote ---The way the Fomor managed to slot so quickly right into the vacuum left by the RC shows that they are a similarly (or larger) sized organization that can hold their own against either.
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No, it doesn't. Anybody can step into a vacuum. We don't know that the Fomor have fully filled the vacuum left by the RC, in fact they almost certainly have not done so. The Fomor are one of many groups competing to fill part of the void left by the absence of the RC. They've managed to do a lot of in and around Chicago, but not necessarily planet-wide.
--- Quote --- One of the most notable attacks by the RC was only possible with some minor assistance from the Fomor; if they fully threw in with either side the war would've been over in a month.
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Probably not. The Fomor on their own are potent, but not that potent. They'd have been useful allies to either side, but no more.\
The White Council had a hard time with the Red Court for multiple reasons:
1. They were complacent and ill-prepared, and their leadership (aided by Peabody, possibly others) were fractious and riven and didn't want to deal with the reality of what was happening.
2. The Red Court had been preparing, laying the groundwork, for the war for quite some time before it broke out. They had plans in place and resources ready.
3. The Council still hasn't found a fully effective way to deal with the tech bane issue, and they hadn't been trying very hard as of the start of the Red War.
4. Caught off-guard, the Council lost a lot of their assets fast in the early days of the war, and had to struggle back from behind as a result.
5. The Reds had help from Outside, the Circle/Black Council/whatever they are, and other hidden allies.
Even so, the war was gradually starting to turn as time passed. The Wizards were slowly pushing back the Reds. Both sides were preparing their respective knockout punches when Harry made the issue moot, so we don't know how that would have played out.
kazimmoinuddin:
I wonder since the rcv prepared for this war, could these plans and preparations have been shared with the fomor?
forumghost:
--- Quote from: kazimmoinuddin on October 03, 2017, 02:22:42 AM ---I wonder since the rcv prepared for this war, could these plans and preparations have been shared with the fomor?
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Since part of that prep involved things like "Buying Bio-Weapons from the Formor" probably on some level, yeah.
TBH though I really dislike the Formor. They just come out of nowhere and are suddenly an even bigger threat then the Red Court and have literally every other faction in the setting on the backfoot.
Like, they've been waging war the Sidhe, the Council, and the White Court simultaneously, for years by this point... and they're somehow not dead. This group of outcasts and nobodies are somehow the most powerful group in the Setting (excluding Mab's siege forces) and they basically just *poofed* out of thin air the moment the Reds died, because "lol of course nothing can get better this is the DF"
Mr. Death:
The Fomor haven't been "waging war on the Sidhe, the Council and the White Court."
They've been kidnapping folks and gathering resources, occasionally being attacked and driven away by one of those three. We even know that they outright avoid cities that have a wizardly presence.
The Fomor haven't, to my knowledge, staged attacks specifically on any of those nations.
They seem to have an advantage because they take initiative and they're going after soft targets. But that doesn't mean they're actively waging war on all three, or that they're a tangibly bigger threat than the Red Court.
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