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Which absent villian will appear in Peace Talks?

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Rasins:

--- Quote from: deflated on September 27, 2017, 06:08:39 PM ---When the RC war went sideways the council was not receiving help from other signatories; it was the Fellowship, etc. that was fighting with them - bitter enemies of the RC. Winter just allowed access to the Paths, buyer beware and it's up to you to avoid the nasties. No-one felt any urge to help the wizards.

Compare that to relationships like the UK & the US over the last 60 years, or even US/Saudi Arabia or the West African mutual defense alliance. The council had nothing and had to go cap in hand to the faerie courts for transport support when they realized they were losing. They were too cocky to cultivate alliances for future unforeseen conflicts and disliked enough that they couldn't drag anyone onto their side without great provocation from the RC. Even the Fomor could get some sort of tentative agreement with other signatories; the council didn't seem to be capable of that.

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Actually we don't know.  All we know are those things that Harry put in his books. 

For all we know the Wouncil's financial division may have been working arm-in-arm with other supernatural nations to ruin the Reds.  Or others may have been providing intelligence.  We really don't know.

Mr. Death:

--- Quote from: Rasins on September 28, 2017, 05:55:02 PM ---Actually we don't know.  All we know are those things that Harry put in his books. 

For all we know the Wouncil's financial division may have been working arm-in-arm with other supernatural nations to ruin the Reds.  Or others may have been providing intelligence.  We really don't know.

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Also, it's foolish to assume that the small handful of supernatural nations have the same sorts of mutual defense pacts that the 200+ nations on the planet do. They seem to operate mostly independently, and war happens infrequently enough that standing alliances aren't necessary.

So just because everyone didn't jump to help the White Council doesn't mean that it's because the White Council went and pissed every one of them off. It's simply because it's not their problem.

kazimmoinuddin:
The white council was working with the fellowship quite closely, so enough to find and aid the remains. It might not be an official position, but the remains of the fellowship would be useful assets.

deflated:

--- Quote from: Rasins on September 28, 2017, 05:55:02 PM ---Actually we don't know.  All we know are those things that Harry put in his books. 

For all we know the Wouncil's financial division may have been working arm-in-arm with other supernatural nations to ruin the Reds.  Or others may have been providing intelligence.  We really don't know.

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If they were getting help it wasn't at all effective which is pretty much the same thing. The council was on the defensive and in significant trouble. Any hypothetical off-screen assistance was not much more than useless at the rate the council was losing wardens and wizards. It is improbable that a commander like the Merlin could look at the casualties and trends in the war and not make a deal for (for example) a company of Einherjaren for security at each key location if a deal was possible. Just doing that to free up the wardens as an offensive force would have been a huge benefit.

It makes no sense within the context to think that the council were ignoring alliances and it makes no sense that they couldn't offer an incentive (political, financial or magical) that some significant power would be interested in. Unless the big players were too scared of the RC to get involved (also improbable) they had no interest in helping the council.

Rasins:
Deflated,

I think of the Rampire war as something like a war between the USA and USSR.

There are all kinds of smaller powers, but something between these two no one else can really be very effective against.

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