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jonas:

--- Quote from: Rasins on September 27, 2017, 07:11:26 PM ---See, and what I'm picturing is the opposite.  I'm picturing that once they are sufficiently forgotten, they disappear out of the well.  Eventually leaving a depression where a new inmate could be place.

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I whole heartedly agree. Think that's part of the point of imprisonment, to waste away into oblivion. Explains the way some of them aren't Named, any identity itself has been forgotten but the idea itself, the entity is not.
Jim says this is much to do with why 'God' can't be forgotten, someone will always wonder, "who created all this?" and.. I think that's why outsiders/beyond reality will never cease either.

Froklsnt:

--- Quote from: Rasins on September 27, 2017, 07:11:26 PM ---See, and what I'm picturing is the opposite.  I'm picturing that once they are sufficiently forgotten, they disappear out of the well.  Eventually leaving a depression where a new inmate could be place.

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Fascinating idea. Could be. That theory would mean that everything in there right now, all 12 (or 13) hallways worth of beasties are still known on Earth. In that case, either the previous wardens were very busy adding inmates, or it takes geologic levels of time for these things to be "sufficiently forgotten."

Kindler:

--- Quote from: Froklsnt on September 27, 2017, 07:23:48 PM ---Fascinating idea. Could be. That theory would mean that everything in there right now, all 12 (or 13) hallways worth of beasties are still known on Earth. In that case, either the previous wardens were very busy adding inmates, or it takes geologic levels of time for these things to be "sufficiently forgotten."

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I thought nobody else on the planet had heard of Spring-Heeled Jack until they did a two-parter that referenced it on Luther. Not a single person I brought it up to had ever heard of it, and that one's not even two centuries old. I can't even remember where I first heard the story, come to think about it; isn't there some kind of Word of Jim about how every kid just knows the lyrics to "Jingle Bells, Batman Smells" without ever learning it? I think a lot of stories are just kind of like that; we pick them up, but it's totally organic, like they have a life of their own. Ditto with some entities.

I wonder if the stories changing affects them at all.

Either way, I think the printing press really screwed things up. Someone should go back in time and stop Gutenberg before they Consume Us All.

kazimmoinuddin:
I think those entities need mortals, those with soul and free will to tie themselves to the material realm.

For some reason I could see some of peace talks carried out on demon reach due to its security.

Once an entity is forgotten, it might become vulnerable. It could loose what power it has and fade away, the energy draining into the well. At certain places, immortals can loose or gain energy, so if forgotten it might imply it can no longer retain power.

I have this theory, that the well can be used against those linked/tied to the inmates. Sort of how the rcv essence was stripped from mortals. Say all the skinwalkers were in the well, the well could be used to strike their descendants and apprentices, those that use their corrupted lore. The skinwalkers are kind of the source of their power. Sort of like how the faerie queens are tied to the courts, if one is affected so the other would as well.

Con:
Ah I have heard of spring-heeled jack but only in passing on The Sanctuary.

Disney'll make a movie of it and revive it just like they did with Jack Frost in Guardians.

Love that movie. Gonna make a new topic about best adaptions of myth and folklore.

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