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--- Quote from: Con on August 24, 2017, 05:51:40 AM ---And you don't think that was in an of itself a balance of exchanges? In Small Favour Mab sends Harry into battle Uriel sends the Knights of the Cross. That's an equal balance if I ever heard one.

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Balancing forces imply opposition.  Two unrelated bullets fired at the same target do nothing to balance each other. 


--- Quote ---Ghost Story the Favour was Uriel keeping Harry Soul Alive in Purgatory While Mab kept his body alive. Again both of their causes had been compromised by Harry's death.

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That was not cooperation, Mab specifically stated that it pissed her right off that Uriel risked Harry that way.  And ultimately Uriel's goal was to prevent Mab from sinking her hooks into Harry too much.  This is not cooperation, it is competition.


--- Quote ---Skin Game a repayment against the Denarians for their actions in both Small Favour and Skin Game in defeating their mutual enemy, all the while Mab gained power in WMD's of the Vault and Uriel got the chance to save multiple Souls through the actions of humanities Free Will. Including potentially Harry's.

Think of what Mac said to Mab "May your scales always return to Balance" "Flatterer"

All of those instances are about scales of balancing actions that have equal actions.

Plus I thought there was a WOJ about Skin Game being Mab clearing her ledger of favours and debts, which implied her favours and debts to Nicodemus, Uriel, Marcone and Hades. But I can't seem to find it and this hasn't been my day of misquoting hearsay WOJ's, so I won't use it in this argument.

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It was stated right in the books that it was about balacing debts, but nothing that I know of points to anything involving Uriel owing or being owed any debts.  The debts discussed were specifically Nic (both what she owed from way back and the vengeance from SmF) and Marcone (ie the SmF stuff), and to a lesser extent the skull for Bob and the diammonds as wereguild.  With Hades, Harry surmised that Hades was complicit in the whole escapade by being Marcone's first "investor", but nothing about debt, I figured part of his Armory role is to facilitate the occasional audition.   

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--- Quote from: Con on August 22, 2017, 05:37:18 AM ---We also know that Lord Marshall Talon had to obey Summer Lady Aurora even when she was directly working against her own Court.

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I don't think that is an accurate description. Lord Marshall Talos was incapable of believing Aurora was working directly against her own Court because it is impossible for the Lady to do so. Telling him that Aurora was crazy and working against Summer would be like telling him 2 + 2 doesn't equal 4.  The problem with Lord Talos was that he either doesn't know about Nemesis' existence, doesn't understand how it can affect the Lady (allowing her to do impossible things), or that he is so shortsighted and pigheaded that he never considered/believed that Aurora was infected. If Talos understood what was wrong with Aurora, his allegiance to Summer would have trumped his allegiance to her.

Personally, I think it is the first, Nemesis is a secret even among the Fae.

Rasins:
I think nemesis is a secret and not sure why.

Sure if they started letting everyone know about it, Nemesis would go into hiding, but that would not be bad.  It would make it harder for N to do it's job.

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--- Quote from: Rasins on August 24, 2017, 08:04:07 PM ---I think nemesis is a secret and not sure why.

Sure if they started letting everyone know about it, Nemesis would go into hiding, but that would not be bad.  It would make it harder for N to do it's job.

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For the same reasons the Black Council is being kept a Secret:  they are afriad they'd get a rash of deserters who want to switch to the super-powerful side that can give them Super-Powers like Lying!  IF a Lady could be swayed, your average fae mook would likely JUMP a the chance to Lie, or to be able to simply Accept a Gift, or maybe Quit their current Court.

kazimmoinuddin:
Who ever holds the table can use it to claim power, but I wonder if there is a way for the courts to share any taken power, or for it to go to the lands of faerie as a whole. I had an idea that both summer and winter could work together to take down the fomor, I particular bringing those entities of power they have to be sacrificed on the stone table. This was due to the fact the fomor are said to be part Sihde. The thing is from what we have seen only the court currently claiming the table gets any added power. So for any partnership to work, the power has to shared so there has to be a way.

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