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Hot water
Rasins:
--- Quote from: Kindler on September 12, 2017, 06:29:12 PM ---I meant a regular water heater, with no magic. His reasoning for not having one is that there's ambient magic all the time, so why not just put a permanent circle around a standard water heater to keep the ambient magic out, like Butters did with the GPS in Dead Beat?
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I think the pipes coming out of it would "break" the circle. Though this would be a question for someone like Bob, or Jim, I suppose.
groinkick:
Actually I think the hot water problem is similar to Harry disrupting guns. Basically a mistake by Jim.
There is nothing electric near the shower when it comes to it's function in most cases. The hot water heater is almost always a good distance away. If Harry's magic moved up the water that could be a problem but water dampens magic so it should have the opposite effect.
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Rasins on September 12, 2017, 06:55:10 PM ---I think the pipes coming out of it would "break" the circle. Though this would be a question for someone like Bob, or Jim, I suppose.
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Maybe. They'd be close enough to the circle to do it, I suppose. To me, that begs the question: Do circles have effective height in the Dresden Files? If it's something absurd, like, I don't know, seven miles, then I'd say it functionally doesn't matter in all but a handful of cases (such as, for example, when fighting a 7.001-mile-jumping-demon). Or is it mostly to do with intent? I think intent would have to have something to do with it, because otherwise tree branches and things a dozen feet off the ground could mess things up. That falls in line with breaking a circle being an act of will, right? So, if Dresden thought that the pipes would break the circle, then they probably would?
I'm in the middle of my umpteenth yearly reread; I really should have this kind of thing down pat by now.
Rasins:
--- Quote from: Kindler on September 12, 2017, 07:34:57 PM ---Maybe. They'd be close enough to the circle to do it, I suppose. To me, that begs the question: Do circles have effective height in the Dresden Files? If it's something absurd, like, I don't know, seven miles, then I'd say it functionally doesn't matter in all but a handful of cases (such as, for example, when fighting a 7.001-mile-jumping-demon). Or is it mostly to do with intent? I think intent would have to have something to do with it, because otherwise tree branches and things a dozen feet off the ground could mess things up. That falls in line with breaking a circle being an act of will, right? So, if Dresden thought that the pipes would break the circle, then they probably would?
I'm in the middle of my umpteenth yearly reread; I really should have this kind of thing down pat by now.
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At one of the recent signings, my son asked Jim about that. He said it was effectively unlimited in height. Suggesting that there is no top to the circle.
Kindler:
--- Quote from: Rasins on September 12, 2017, 07:47:25 PM ---At one of the recent signings, my son asked Jim about that. He said it was effectively unlimited in height. Suggesting that there is no top to the circle.
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Interesting. Good question from your son! I'm always keen to get into the mechanics of how stuff works in these kinds of books.
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