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Small Favor: Why Mab got involved in the first place

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raidem:

--- Quote ---Mab understands the love hate / hate relationship between Harry Dresden and John Marcone.
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I still like to believe there is some father son relationship going on with a temporal spin on things in the mix.  Harry and Murphy(Mab) has a child that becomes one John Marcone.  Or at least in some way Harry and John Marcone are closely related. 

Stormfront and Dresden Files series begins with Son paying tribute to father.

--- Quote ---For Debbie Chester, who taught me everything I really needed to know about writing. And for my father, who taught me everything I really needed to know about living.
I miss you dad.
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This is then followed closely by multiple 'father' references during the Harry/Marcone encounter.

Godfather reference=Gangster, crime bosses

--- Quote ---Marcone seemed somewhat put off by my attitude. Maybe I was supposed to be holding my hat in my hand, but I had never really liked Francis Ford Coppola, and I didn't have a Godfather. (I do have a Godmother, and she is, inevitably perhaps, a faery. But that's another story.)
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Grandfather reference

--- Quote ---He wrinkled up his face as if carefully considering what he would say, and taking my well-being into account with grandfatherly concern. "How much would it set me back to have you not investigate something?"
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Father reference

--- Quote ---"All right, then," he said, smoothly, and as though nothing had happened. "I won't try to force my offer on you, Mister Dresden." The car was slowing down as it approached my building, and Hendricks pulled over in front of it. "But let me offer you some advice?"
He had dropped the father-talking-to-son act, and spoke in a calm and patient voice.
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I've spinned this post off to another thread of its own.

Rasins:

--- Quote from: Thugorp on September 24, 2017, 12:37:44 AM ---Ummm.... Who next in line? The, "Archive," is passed down mother to daughter. What's more, it is passed down from mother to daughter during the birth of the daughter(Darkness style), leaving the last archive an empty vessel. This is why Ive's mother is in a, "persistent vegetative state," and why Ive, "knows everything my mother was, and what she thought about me." ... In other words, if Ive had died, it would have been the end of the archive forever, because there would be no one for, "the archive," to progress into.

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That's not how it was explained in the books.  Ivy was a bit of an anomaly.  Her mother didn't want to take on the Archive so attempted suicide.  Usually they have a lifetime to build up their own personality and memories that help shield them from the memories of all the others.  Ivy doesn't have that buffer.  Thus the worry that Luccio stated.

Second Aristh:

--- Quote from: Quantus on August 24, 2017, 06:21:32 PM ---Ah, kk, Im with you now. 

I dont know, it feels like a simpler explanation that it was Maeve behind the Hobs (ie Awfully Gauche) and was working counter to Mab interests (in general or for something specific we've not seen), who in turn didnt fully explain to Harry because she didnt want dissension in the ranks to be known.  This was the novel she first had to start talking through Grimalkin, so she's aware of Maeve's Nemfection.

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Maeve as the one behind the Hobbs attack doesn't sit right with me.  They didn't pose a serious threat to Ivy at all, so it had to be about sending a message, perhaps one that could not be easily sent in another way.  Mab sending a warning to Ivy to be careful seems most likely at this point.

jonas:

--- Quote from: Second Aristh on September 27, 2017, 04:50:44 PM ---Maeve as the one behind the Hobbs attack doesn't sit right with me.  They didn't pose a serious threat to Ivy at all, so it had to be about sending a message, perhaps one that could not be easily sent in another way.  Mab sending a warning to Ivy to be careful seems most likely at this point.

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Yea she all but says the Archive in Nemesis's hands was not acceptable, she of course uses 'enemy' and I remember the old convo's on it before we knew of N.

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