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Bob's Personality, and Justin
Cozarkian:
I envision Harry digging through the ashes looking for Elaine's body, finding a skull, touching it, and discovering it talks.
If he never saw Justin speaking with the skull, it's personality but would be almost entirely the imprint of Harry's teenage subconscious.
Griffyn612:
The thing is, Bob's wording in Dead Beat is strange. In regards to his knowledge of Kemmler, he said, editing out Harry's parts...
--- Quote ---"I don't remember very much of it. [I don't forget] unless I want to. Or was compelled to. You don't want to command me to remember. Because knowledge is what I am. Losing my knowledge of what I new of Kemmler took away a... a big piece of my existence. Like if someone had cut off your arm. What's left of what I know of Kemmler is close to the missing pieces."
--- End quote ---
To me, it sounds like he had already cut off Evil Bob at some previous occasion. I know Bob says in Ghost Story that Evil Bob is the part he cut off because of Harry's orders in Dead Beat, but it also sounds like there could have been more out there already. Maybe I'm reading into it too much.
jonas:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on August 14, 2017, 03:56:02 PM ---The thing is, Bob's wording in Dead Beat is strange. In regards to his knowledge of Kemmler, he said, editing out Harry's parts...
To me, it sounds like he had already cut off Evil Bob at some previous occasion. I know Bob says in Ghost Story that Evil Bob is the part he cut off because of Harry's orders in Dead Beat, but it also sounds like there could have been more out there already. Maybe I'm reading into it too much.
--- End quote ---
I don't think so, by my own idea, I figured 'close to those pieces', when he accessed those pieces is when he gave EBob a way in. I don't think he was 'inside' him at that point at all.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: jonas on August 14, 2017, 04:06:43 PM ---I don't think so, by my own idea, I figured 'close to those pieces', when he accessed those pieces is when he gave EBob a way in. I don't think he was 'inside' him at that point at all.
--- End quote ---
Maybe it's just the phrasing, where he combines "losing" the knowledge and "cutting off" to describe a previous instance.
Either way, he and Harry should have discussed the ramifications of the order.
Quantus:
I generally took that scene (combined with GS) to indicate that Bob had carved off a chunk of himself on two separate occasions: once at the end of DB (per bob in GS) and once in the window of time between Kemmler and Harry owing the Skull.
I Suppose it's possible that when Bob was ordered to "remember" he somehow Summoned the originally severed pie, but that means that either Bob summoned his other half in order to "remember" or else EvilBob was already close enough to detect the opportunity. The former doesnt fit with the way Bob described what was happening or what he was being ordered to "remember", and the latter seems generally unlikely but cant be disproven.
||My current theory||
When Justin got Bob (hereafter "proto-Bob") he too was attacked by a creature whose had been "twisted" by kemmler and had to Order the SoI to Forget some and suppress other Knowledge/Memories of his time with Kemmler, just as Harry did. The only difference is that Justin actually cared about saving the secret arcane lore contained in the SoI, so his order didnt go as far as Harry's did and left the "pieces" that harry woke up in DB.
Thus we have:
Proto-Bob = All the Bob that Kemmler Had
Bob = All the Bob that Kemmler had minus the most homicidal parts, with the remaining lesser homicidal parts suppressed.
Necro-Bob = Bob plus the Suppressed Bits woken up
Evil-Bob = Necro-Bob Minus Bob, aka just the suppressed bits.
This means that there is likely a 3rd independent chunk of Bob running around out there. Unless Evil-bob somehow combined with the chunk previously severed, as I think Jonas was theorizing.
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