The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Why Attack Arctus Tor?
jonas:
--- Quote from: Arjan on September 03, 2017, 06:01:41 PM ---It is actually in changes:
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Context implied in the greater page?
--- Quote ---"For what reason have you detained her?"
"Because I do not tolerate challenges to my authority,"... "Certain event's had convinced your Godmother she was no longer bound by my word and will..."
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Guess Mab's a liar now ??? unless we can agree it's far most likely that she did both, confronted Mab and like Sith tried to, managed to break free enough to let her own desire, felt through shame be known.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: jonas on September 03, 2017, 07:16:42 PM ---Context implied in the greater page? Guess Mab's a liar now ??? unless we can agree it's far most likely that she did both, confronted Mab and like Sith tried to, managed to break free enough to let her own desire, felt through shame be known.
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Mab did not say who challenged her authority :)
From Proven Guilty:
--- Quote ---“Lea,” I said. “What has happened to you? How long have you been a Sidhe-sicle?”
Some of the strength seemed to ebb from her, and she suddenly seemed exhausted. “I grew too
arrogant with the power I held. I thought I could overcome what stalks us all. Foolish. Milady Queen Mab taught me the error of my ways.”
“She’s had you locked up in your own private iceberg for more than a year?” I shook my head. “Godmother, you look like you fell out of a crazy tree and hit every branch on the way down.”
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With hindsight I translate "What stalks us all" as Nemesis. Lea tried to overcome it herself but failed. Ashamed she went to her queen.
jonas:
--- Quote from: Arjan on September 03, 2017, 08:17:49 PM ---Mab did not say who challenged her authority :)
From Proven Guilty:With hindsight I translate "What stalks us all" as Nemesis. Lea tried to overcome it herself but failed. Ashamed she went to her queen.
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No, it says she thought she didn't have to answer to her, that's challenging authority, trust me, I know. nice theory though, look it even has a premise to base an inference :)
KurtinStGeorge:
A long time ago I posted there was another reason Maeve may have been willing to help Lily with her plan. It's possible Maeve didn't expect Harry to survive his second encounter with Eldest Fetch. She may have felt that that working with Lily was enough to start gaining Lily's trust even if Harry died in the attempt. After all, Lily knew she was gambling with Harry and his companions lives when she gave him access to Summer Fire without telling him about it. Plus, we have no way of knowing if Lily told Maeve she was giving Harry access to Summer Fire. If Maeve wasn't given that information she might not have given Harry much of a chance to succeed. However, when Harry did win through Maeve was forced to carry out the rest plan and slow the flow of time around Arctis Tor, otherwise her plan to subvert Lily would have died right then and there.
Arjan:
--- Quote from: jonas on September 03, 2017, 10:16:21 PM ---No, it says she thought she didn't have to answer to her, that's challenging authority, trust me, I know. nice theory though, look it even has a premise to base an inference :)
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I tend to give more weight to Lea's words here because Lea is Harry's godmother and has less to hide and more to teach and very important her words are less ambivalent.
By not naming who did challenge her authority she left it to Harry to make assumptions and that is always dangerous. The first assumption might very well be the wrong one.
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