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Marvra and Kemmler (Deadbeat)

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Con:

--- Quote from: Quantus on August 08, 2017, 08:38:32 PM ---Blood sacrifice of babies and the cutest puppies, obviously :P

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Well Odin was the originator of Being Hanged I wonder if he got all the blood sacrifices from everyone being Hung.

jonas:

--- Quote from: Con on August 08, 2017, 08:00:04 PM ---That's basically the theory yeah, but I don't wanna take too much away from Anubissama's theory of Queen Mavra. How do you think she'd use the Word of Kemmler? How do you think she'd organise her court?

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Ok now that your post gave me a brain fart and I hunted up the clue I needed.
--- Quote ---And a one-on-thirtyish fight (Mab vs the elders of the BC
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I'm feeling waggish. I think the BCE were actually starting to replace old mantles held by the 30 fallen. cause ya know Dracula=son of dragon=winged serpent=fallen angel, ect. They actually both are primarily based on angelic power. So maybe Mavra want's to eat them all up and become a super angel/ fallen/ undead born goddess?

Quantus:

--- Quote from: jonas on August 08, 2017, 08:41:23 PM ---Depends...
In need of info, do we KNOW there were 13 BC Elders? I thought it was said to be 30 but I can't find any numbers in any listed woj at all.

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30-ish Black Court Elders.  Thirteen is the number of Grey Council Members and the max number that can collaborate on a spell via a Circle, but it sometimes gets confused in discussion


--- Quote ---4. if the elders of the black court could have taken mab, then HOW ON EARTH did any mere force of humans manage to go up and stake them? i mean, they should've wiped out anything that was coming after them if they can take on MAB herself...just a thought
Power in the spirit world isn't the same thing as power in the material world.  And a one-on-thirtyish fight (Mab vs the elders of the BC) is WAY different than a one-on-20,000 fight (a BC vampire against a modest mortal city).  Especially when the 20,000 know what your weaknesses are, and how to kill you with them. Smiley  And that's assuming that you don't have a saint, or an independent wizard, or a shaman, a Knight of the Cross or some other champion, or other spiritual allies on your side which was not uncommon.  Hell, for that matter, you might well be aided by vampires from the other Courts.  *Everyone* resented how powerful the Blacks had become.
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Con:
Ah bugger their goes a crucial element of my theory.

jonas:
Actually, taking all the 30=30 theory out of it, and we have a being who thrives on the same stuff of necromancy and being not trying to eat a crap ton of magic, of life. Born goddess might be more accurate a description than I first thought when you account for the 'you are what you eat' rule/law/maxim(whichever), in which case she might literally become an 'inside' goddess of magic. a resident of this world. Eeek!

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