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A clue during Uriel's transubstation - Skin Games Spoilers!
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Quantus on August 01, 2017, 12:12:49 PM ---Ive also toyed with the possibility that all mythological Creators throughout human history are facets/avatars of the same Entity. In that theory the Mothers are themselves facets of this Creator; the polar Fire and Ice primordial forces that created the world in the Norse myth
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Many of the creators might be different facets of the same one, but we know the Mothers arose later from Hecate's mantle being divided and their Courts grew in power through sacrifices on the Table. And even if the original Hecate continued as Mother Winter, she wasn't a creator in her origins.
jonas:
--- Quote ---"typically Brahma the creator, Vishnu the preserver, and Shiva the destroyer/regenerator."
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Huh, yea that trio works the same thematics pretty well. Crossing them with the fates the middle one has a lot more descriptive role here. Could well be another point toward summer and winter being that whole 3 piece broken down again by 3.(cause Pi stays Pi, the magic of three's) They Preserve reality, the balance, ect. ??? Mmm.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on August 01, 2017, 03:09:35 PM ---Many of the creators might be different facets of the same one, but we know the Mothers arose later from Hecate's mantle being divided and their Courts grew in power through sacrifices on the Table. And even if the original Hecate continued as Mother Winter, she wasn't a creator in her origins.
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In general this theory only works if you really embrace the extreme implications of both a)Most if not all big players having lots of Names/Hats, and b)Mantles being a constantly evolving melting pot of Purpose/Power.
So it's less that Hecate is or was the Creator and more that a facet the Creator and the Fates, Baba Yaga, et al. now happen to reside in the same vessel. In this instance, I see it as such: The Creator Facet is the Primoridal Energies of Fire and Ice (in Norse creation the interaction these two forces gave birth to all subsequent creation, largely unGuided), and through unrevealed Shenanigans, this Power was used in the creation of the current system of Gate Guardians (a cosmic task that would presumably warrant a cosmic Power source), but that it only recently got associated with the being(s) formerly known as Hecate.
Once historically interesting thing is that Hecate started as a small fry, was inflated to a much more supreme place in the pantheon by later authors, but then in post christian writings "she was regarded with (some) rulership over earth, sea and sky, as well as a more universal role as Saviour (Soteira), Mother of Angels and the Cosmic World Soul.". If viewed through the DF lens, that sounds like a post-Crucifixion ascension of prominence within the christian POV/framework, one that sure cold be arguably on par with TWG.
DonBugen:
Uriel says this as he stands on the Carpenters' property, surrounded by other sentinel angels. The plain sense interpretation of "our" in this sense is that it is not in the power of the angels to heal him; that the "our" is referring to his race, present yet unseen by mortals. Any other interpretation, I think, is really reaching unless there is supporting evidence to demonstrate why this plain interpretation does not fit the context.
Rasins:
I read that as anyone on the side of defending the free will of mortals. Anyone. Angels, Archangels, or anyone else who fights for free will and the restriction of those who would limit it.
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