The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Bob, Butters, and the White Council...
Quantus:
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on August 02, 2017, 04:27:52 AM ---Makes no difference. Remember, the Council is not about justice, but restraining power and maintaining public safety. They don't want Bob destroyed (and they think he has been destroyed, remember) as a punishment, they want him destroyed as a preventive measure. Too much knowledge and power with too little restraint. That's true whether he's good, bad, or neutral.
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Makes no difference:) They dont want bob dead because they've deemed all Spirits of Intellect to be a Dangerous thing in and of themselves. They want NecroBob destroyed because that one, specifically, knew and did things that were "appalling" according to Luccio. They dont just go execute every Spirit of Intellect. So they'd have to first have a reason to think that Bob is the same one that Kemmler "twisted", before they'd bother.
Mira:
--- Quote from: Quantus on August 02, 2017, 12:00:46 PM ---Makes no difference:) They dont want bob dead because they've deemed all Spirits of Intellect to be a Dangerous thing in and of themselves. They want NecroBob destroyed because that one, specifically, knew and did things that were "appalling" according to Luccio. They dont just go execute every Spirit of Intellect. So they'd have to first have a reason to think that Bob is the same one that Kemmler "twisted", before they'd bother.
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That depends on how unique Bob is in the first place, until the advent of Evil Bob and now Bonny he might have been the only one outside of the Archive. So it might be a destroy first and ask questions later type of thing. Or lacking imagination, which many Wardens and Council members do, they may not realize that a wacky kid wizard can change the personality of the spirit by naming it "Bob" and imprinting his teen aged over productive hormones on it, changing it.. They may not conceive of the idea that the evil part can be suppressed at all by the holder of the skull. Finally they would not be able to fathom the idea that that spirit because of the last two holders of his skull would successfully rid himself of the evil persona, but more dangerously unwittingly create an evil twin in the process.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 02, 2017, 12:16:30 PM ---That depends on how unique Bob is in the first place, until the advent of Evil Bob and now Bonny he might have been the only one outside of the Archive. So it might be a destroy first and ask questions later type of thing. Or lacking imagination, which many Wardens and Council members do, they may not realize that a wacky kid wizard can change the personality of the spirit by naming it "Bob" and imprinting his teen aged over productive hormones on it, changing it.. They may not conceive of the idea that the evil part can be suppressed at all by the holder of the skull. Finally they would not be able to fathom the idea that that spirit because of the last two holders of his skull would successfully rid himself of the evil persona, but more dangerously unwittingly create an evil twin in the process.
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Oh, We've been told since way back that there are others SoI out there so I wasnt really thinking on that side. But you are right we only know specifically of the three (including the alluded Athena). My thought was that a) Bob and Necrobob look, act, and feel different, and b) Bob can always very truthfully claim that Evil-bob is the one they really want. And now he also has C) He's the side-kick of a full-time Knight of the Cross, which if not exactly unassailable protection, is still a better bargaining position than if he were owned by an ex-cop or a Polka-meister or a freakin' scary Warlock-Knight of Evil Fairies.
Side topic:
Per WOJ, beings like Bob are incapable of Changing their own Natures (the whole Free Will bit) but they can still Change with enough exposure to Mortals. Once upon a time Bob could not so much as perceive Faith or Angels or anything on that side of the spectrum. But playing magical Jarvis for a Knight of the Cross might just be the sort of thing to move his needle, no?
peregrine:
--- Quote from: Mira on August 01, 2017, 11:35:20 AM ---The Wardens do not act unilaterally, the original order had to have come down from the Council, or at least the Senior Council.
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Yeah, but my thought was whether or not the entirety of the council was responsible for destroying Bob, or just the Wardens.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: peregrine on August 02, 2017, 04:29:46 PM ---Yeah, but my thought was whether or not the entirety of the council was responsible for destroying Bob, or just the Wardens.
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Well, given that the order theoretically went out during the gathering of their cumulative strength to fight Kemmler, it might have gone out to the bulk of the Council as well as some key allies. On the other hand, the presence of said "Key Allies" might have been enough to warrant the "Clean-up" being managed solely by the Wardens. They'd have expected lots of Dark artifacts and knowledge and probably would fully trust all of the extended alliance.
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