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Sword on Sword
jonas:
--- Quote --- infringement on mortal Free Will by supernatural powers, or supernatural powers going against their intended purpose.
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Wizards are a supernatural power? One not intended to dictate the fate of others, too. They're using authority gotten from supernatural power to dictate the fate of corrupted young men and women. Given credence only by the perceptions of having said power in their grasp to choose from. Power just gives one more choices(unless supernaturally inhibited, of course), which includes unfortunately infringing upon others if you so wish.
*as per what I understand of being mortal in the DF it includes the ability to always choose. Death takes away that choice. So unless they really are full on Warlock/something else inside. They aren't gone in the way the council dictates.
Anubissama:
--- Quote from: jonas on July 29, 2017, 08:51:32 PM ---Wizards are a supernatural power?
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They are Mortals with Free Will that happen to have supernatural powers by birth. What they do with them falls under their Free Will choices so TWG stays out of it.
Michael is alone if he attacks the Council for killing Molly, and again even IF the Sword would work it only blocks the supernatural powers. He still goes up against Morgan a much more experienced sword fighter and would lose.
jonas:
--- Quote from: Anubissama on July 29, 2017, 08:59:01 PM ---They are Mortals with Free Will that happen to have supernatural powers by birth. What they do with them falls under their Free Will choices so TWG stays out of it.
Michael is alone if he attacks the Council for killing Molly, and again even IF the Sword would work it only blocks the supernatural powers. He still goes up against Morgan a much more experienced sword fighter and would lose.
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Does he now? Seems to me that's already proven untrue multiple times in Harry's story. Ignoring all the other stuff that Is set up for harry by happenstance(random miraculous coincidences that enable victory), anytime Mr. Dresden has genuinely prayed, those prayers were taken into consideration. Seems to me TWG and the swords are a lot bigger than minimizing the damage of 30 silver coins. Quite the opposite, the purpose of the coins is probably to balance the mere existence of the swords.(which did exist pre-TWC)
*Oh, and they don't get them from birth, they inherit them sure. But they aren't born with them. They chose to develop them or use them. Don't see why using them for any normal definition of 'evil' or refined definition of taking away choice would be any different than any other kind of normal 'sinning' against someone. and if it is... why that would make it an unbalanced force in nature O.o ;D
Smaug with OCD:
Molly chose to go before the council. She chose to seek their judgement. Michael, despite wishing otherwise, would have no power to protect his daughter in the same way he couldn't save Hanah Ascher from the Gate of Fire because she chose to try and pull the lever. She wasn't an innocent, trapped in a situation she had no hand in creating.
That being said, no. I don't expect God to have Michael in a situation where he'd have to watch his daughter die. That's kind of the whole point of Faith, isn't it? Especially in that context? Doesn't Harry even comment on that? That is why the original question was a "what if" statement.
jonas:
So I suppose this boils down to, What if Langtry had decided to execute Molly anyway? Would TWG have covered Michael in an attempt to free his daughter? Put in that Dresden promises to escape with her directly, Morgan follows and Eb an GK chose to stand back. Michael Vs Langtry seems like the match up for the month heh heh...
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