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Denarians and White Council
Con:
This ties into the Mavra thread post I just made but I thought there was woj or suggestion or theory that Ebenezar was taking out the thirteen Elders of the Black COurt who were doing a Dark Hollow. Which is why they were a threat to Mab. Theory is supported by local folklore and myth about something called 'the grey men' or 'the death men' or something in the region.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Con on August 08, 2017, 11:48:19 AM ---This ties into the Mavra thread post I just made but I thought there was woj or suggestion or theory that Ebenezar was taking out the thirteen Elders of the Black COurt who were doing a Dark Hollow. Which is why they were a threat to Mab. Theory is supported by local folklore and myth about something called 'the grey men' or 'the death men' or something in the region.
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First Ive heard of it, but that's interesting. There were some old letters between Eb and Simon in one of the recent RPG books that could have included something along those lines, might that be what you recall?
Con:
--- Quote from: Quantus on August 08, 2017, 12:13:53 PM ---First Ive heard of it, but that's interesting. There were some old letters between Eb and Simon in one of the recent RPG books that could have included something along those lines, might that be what you recall?
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Stoker's book is certainly mentioned in the letters but no direct mention of tunguska.
WOJ is the Thirteen Elders were a threat to Mab.
But yeah iirc the theory was that the Purge was happening and the Thirteen Elders gathered at Tunguska (the region having several folklore about dangerous horror people called 'the grey men') to perform a Dark Hollow and ascend. It's also backed by the fact that thirteens the biggest number a group of people can perform a ritual.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Con on August 08, 2017, 12:43:16 PM ---Stoker's book is certainly mentioned in the letters but no direct mention of tunguska.
WOJ is the Thirteen Elders were a threat to Mab.
But yeah iirc the theory was that the Purge was happening and the Thirteen Elders gathered at Tunguska (the region having several folklore about dangerous horror people called 'the grey men') to perform a Dark Hollow and ascend. It's also backed by the fact that thirteens the biggest number a group of people can perform a ritual.
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Is there one that specifically speaks to Mab having that sort of actual motivation? I mean, there is WOJ that the Black Court Elders were a threat by virtue of being on the list of those that /could/ take her, but that's not to say she was actually pursuing that goal. Separately there is a WOJ that the Black Court were a threat to /Everyone/ because they'd grown in power so quickly or whatever and that everyone was gunning for them to one extent or another, but again it wasnt any more specific to Mab than to any other Interest. Is this an extension of those or is there something that specifically said Mab had it out for the Black Court?
Con:
--- Quote from: Quantus on August 08, 2017, 12:53:45 PM ---Is there one that specifically speaks to Mab having that sort of actual motivation? I mean, there is WOJ that the Black Court Elders were a threat by virtue of being on the list of those that /could/ take her, but that's not to say she was actually pursuing that goal. Separately there is a WOJ that the Black Court were a threat to /Everyone/ because they'd grown in power so quickly or whatever and that everyone was gunning for them to one extent or another, but again it wasnt any more specific to Mab than to any other Interest. Is this an extension of those or is there something that specifically said Mab had it out for the Black Court?
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I believe it might be this one. Though I think that there is a woj or that is the woj that says Black Court was a team up job between White Court and Mab. If not then that second WOJ is the reference point for it combined with them being on the list.
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