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Denarians and White Council
Con:
--- Quote from: Quantus on August 04, 2017, 01:21:28 PM ---Hmmm, if he's saying that the fan-theory for the blackstaff should explain it, I think that sends me straight back to it being the primary tool of Atropos: She who Ends Life. Prior to the appearance of Hades she was the closest thing to an incarnation of Death we'd seen, and even then the Fates were always above the Gods in most respects (at least in the sense that Fate itself was a Force even the Gods could not contradict).
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Well he also says in the same interview about a minute later that Mother Winter and Mother Summer aren't two of the Fates which is confusing. But he goes on to say he leaves clues in Skin Game as to who they are which is a reference to Hecate.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Con on August 04, 2017, 01:42:53 PM ---Well he also says in the same interview about a minute later that Mother Winter and Mother Summer aren't two of the Fates which is confusing. But he goes on to say he leaves clues in Skin Game as to who they are which is a reference to Hecate.
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He doesnt actually say that they /arent/ the fates, just that Skin Game elaborated on the way it all worked. The question specified that the asker thought that Mother Summer was a 2nd Fate in addition to Mother Winter being Atropos, and in a Separate WOJ he was asked something similar and the answer was more that they had the three-goddess part 90° off, which I took at the time to mean that both mothers are Atropos (which CD confirmed /is/ in the mix somehow), and that both Queens and Both Ladies share the other two of the Maiden/Mother/Crone triumverate. Skin Game showed that as many as 6 people can share one god's Name.
knnn:
--- Quote from: Quantus on August 04, 2017, 01:49:20 PM ---which I took at the time to mean that both mothers are Atropos (which CD confirmed /is/ in the mix somehow), and that both Queens and Both Ladies share the other two of the Maiden/Mother/Crone triumverate.
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^this^
Re: the Fan-theory on the Blackstaff, it might be worth re-looking at Serack's Elegast's old thread here. The Raven Banner/Landravager/Fairy Flag myth is connected to 1066 and might well be the answer.
Mr. Death:
--- Quote from: vultur on August 04, 2017, 05:23:39 AM ---I doubt he can do it quickly, but he's done it at least 16 times (New Madrid, Krakatoa, Tunguska, Casaverde, "a dozen more at least") so he must know how to set it up, and the war with the Red Court lasted years.
I dunno - it definitely keeps him from going crazy, but I'm not at all convinced that that's the only effect it has.
True.
The attack they did in DB was even worse than the Archangel one, though - killing tons of Wardens in the hospital and coming very close to outright victory. That would seem to deserve an even larger response.
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New Madrid was an earthquake, Krakatoa was a volcano and Casaverde was a satellite. I.e., each time he had to take advantage of already-present features. It's not something he can just whip up at will and aim wherever he wants, he apparently needs something to use in the environment.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on August 04, 2017, 02:14:15 PM ---New Madrid was an earthquake, Krakatoa was a volcano and Casaverde was a satellite. I.e., each time he had to take advantage of already-present features. It's not something he can just whip up at will and aim wherever he wants, he apparently needs something to use in the environment.
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I agree 100%. That being said, the whole mystery of Tunguska was that it didnt have any obvious source, spawning all kinds of weird scientific theories for how that much energy could be released without a trace.
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