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Mab's Plans
MacPhoenix:
OK, so I recently went back and reread skin game. We all know that Mab has an important job in the universe, and Harry and Molly are helping out cause they know and don't have many choices. What we don't know is if Harry and Molly are ever going to get away from Mabs control I.E... the influence of the mantles. So, what I would like to hear from Dresden fandom is if leaving the mantles is even an option, has Jim said anything to elude their eventual escape, and if Harry/Molly ever win free of Winter what then?
Mira:
--- Quote from: MacPhoenix on July 23, 2017, 04:05:39 PM --- OK, so I recently went back and reread skin game. We all know that Mab has an important job in the universe, and Harry and Molly are helping out cause they know and don't have many choices. What we don't know is if Harry and Molly are ever going to get away from Mabs control I.E... the influence of the mantles. So, what I would like to hear from Dresden fandom is if leaving the mantles is even an option, has Jim said anything to elude their eventual escape, and if Harry/Molly ever win free of Winter what then?
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They may get the option at some point, but I doubt they will take it until after the BAT.. The fate of the world trumps their own personal well being..
dspringer1:
Winter knight is certainly something people can leave as Harry is still mortal. There is always choice with mortals. Obvious possibilities include a bargain with Mab/Mother Winter, although true death and resurrection might do the trick (if you can manage it). I suspect if Harry assumed a true mantle and was no longer mortal, he would be disqualified from being the Winter Knight - which must be mortal. Winter can also be destroyed, which would end the mantle.
No idea if Molly has an escape route. No examples of immortals giving up their immortality. However, as Mantles can be stolen/taken on Halloween, that implies that a person can "lose" a mantle. No mantle, no immortality. No idea if you can lose a mantle and still survive if that is your only mantle, but it is at least a possibility. Someone also mentioned some statements by JB about one of the queens retiring. I cannot remember the details.
MacPhoenix:
I would expect the retired Queen to be Mother Winter. I believe she gave or lost her walking stick to the Councils "Black Mage".
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: MacPhoenix on July 23, 2017, 11:11:10 PM ---I would expect the retired Queen to be Mother Winter. I believe she gave or lost her walking stick to the Councils "Black Mage".
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Per WOJ, the current Mother Winter is the original.
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