The Dresden Files > DF Spoilers
Harry should Dark Hallow Demonreach.
Shift8:
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--- Quote from: Induction --- the inference of a general law from particular instances
--- Quote --- need to start paying attention... and being nicer please. :)
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Cannot imagine what you think I have said that is "unnice" Or what exactly I am not paying attention to.
Your assertion that Demonreach would alter Harry must be back up by evidence. The burden of proof is not on me. I have not obligation whatsoever to disprove your assertion. You could just as easily assert that doing the DH on DR will turn harry literally into the devil. Or that he turns into a cupcake. Or literally any set of English works you want to order in some manner. You are providing a positive statement, and I have no onus to disprove it. You have onus to prove it. Otherwise all things not disproved are held true until I disprove them, which is clearly not logical.
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jonas:
--- Quote from: Shift8 on July 21, 2017, 02:39:13 PM ---Cannot imagine what you think I have said that is "unnice" Or what exactly I am not paying attention to.
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Don's assertation for starters
--- Quote ---Your assertion that Demonreach would alter Harry must be back up by evidence. The burden of proof is not on me.
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GK in TC
--- Quote --- I have not obligation whatsoever to disprove your assertion. You could just as easily assert that doing the DH on DR will turn harry literally into the devil. Or that he turns into a cupcake. Or literally any set of English works you want to order in some manner. You are providing a positive statement, and I have no onus to disprove it. You have onus to prove it. Otherwise all things not disproved are held true until I disprove them, which is clearly not logical.
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you provided the positive assertion that you are what you eat is a maxim... now again don't ignore me, prove it.
Mr. Death:
Shift8, we've provided several pieces of evidence and citations about what happens when you absorb power from something, both from the books and WOJ.
All you've provided is, "Nah, not good enough."
Please argue in good faith and stop ignoring everything that is contrary to your own assertion.
Shift8:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on July 21, 2017, 02:34:52 PM ---No, I'm taking evidence we've seen and been told directly about taking and absorbing power from one being to another and applying it to a suggestion that Harry take and absorb power from other beings into himself.
What's preposterous is ignoring all the evidence and WOJ and people directly telling Harry that even touching the power of Demonreach is a terrible idea, and saying everything would be fine.
Harry can't even do specific things with his own power without being affected by it. Every creature in Demonreach is vastly more powerful than Harry individually. And you think that Harry can absorb all of them without being affected by it.
That is just plain not how the world of Dresden has ever worked. You don't gain power as simple as plain knowledge without being affected by it.
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Sorry, but broad generalizations about a wide range of separate and unrelated magic do not somehow merge into highly specific problems from Dresden in if he does a DH on DR. You can certainly speculate that they might causes problems based on experience with other magic, but asserting that it will happen in some specific manner is not a valid statement.
Shift8:
--- Quote from: Mr. Death on July 21, 2017, 02:44:35 PM ---Shift8, we've provided several pieces of evidence and citations about what happens when you absorb power from something, both from the books and WOJ.
All you've provided is, "Nah, not good enough."
Please argue in good faith and stop ignoring everything that is contrary to your own assertion.
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Not good enough is perfectly fine if what you are saying is not good enough. Everything you are saying simply implies the possibility of a problem. Not its certainty. To state a certainty you need specifics.
I am very much arguing in good faith. I am not trolling you. You cant just provide vague generalities and act as if they are cosmic proof of your highly specific assertions.
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