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Butcher Battle 17#: Tavi vs Nicodemus
Thatguywhocomesaround:
Tavi and Nicodemus sqaure up against one another in a composite universe. (As in DF - Alera crossover world or something).
Nicodemus has knowledge of Tavi's past and is aware of his extreme intellect. So assume Nicodemus is taking precautions. Tavi, in turn, is aware of the temptation Nicodemus can offer and his fearsome reputation. Obviously, assume both men have knowledge of magic, furies, modern world, Alera world, and all.
Both have equal knowledge of this fusion setting.
Both may gain more knowledge of each other within their three combat encounters in the same way Harry and Nic have.
Tavi HAS Fury Crafting
R1
Tavi replaces Harry in Death Masks.
Can he outwit a Nicodemus, survive and foil his plan?
R2
Tavi replaces Harry in Small Favor
Can he outwit Nicodemus, survive and foil his plan?
R3
Tavi replaces Harry in Skin Game
Can he manage to get into the vault, stay true to Mab's word, outwit Nicodemus and survive?
NOTE - Assume in all three rounds that Tavi has the same help and friends Harry did and Nicodemus has the same resources in Death Masks, Small Favor, and Skin Gam respectively.
R4
Neither men have any knowledge of each other, both get one week prep to learn what they can and then play in Chess. Who wins?
Note- Assume Tavi knows the game of Chess of course
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Thatguywhocomesaround on July 19, 2017, 09:35:17 PM ---Tavi has no Fury Crafting
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In other words, can a vanilla mortal that happens to be moderately intelligent defeat a 2,000 year old immortal that's immune to physical damage, has the knowledge of a fallen angel, has the power to manipulate shadows, has at least a dozen mortal servants and a few demonic creatures, and has anywhere from three to a dozen fellow fallen angels working with him in any given book?
>:(
Thatguywhocomesaround:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on July 19, 2017, 09:49:27 PM ---In other words, can a vanilla mortal that happens to be moderately intelligent defeat a 2,000 year old immortal that's immune to physical damage, has the knowledge of a fallen angel, has the power to manipulate shadows, has at least a dozen mortal servants and a few demonic creatures, and has anywhere from three to a dozen fellow fallen angels working with him in any given book?
>:(
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Recall, Tavi has Harry's resources. Knights of the Cross, Murphy, Thomas, Kincaid, and may move them and use them to his advantage as he wants. I can turn on Fury Crafting but I figured Tavi would sweep with that. What do you think?
Also, Tavi is quite a bit above moderate intellect. I do believe you aren't giving him enough credit in that area.
Also, there is more to defeating someone than killing them. This is not a straight up meet in a ring fight as other battles are I've done. I mean that works but there are other ways. Marcone managed to use his intellect (with help of course) against Nicodemus and survived a physical encounter with him. Harry has also used his intelligence to outgambit Nicodemus.
Griffyn612:
--- Quote from: Thatguywhocomesaround on July 19, 2017, 10:13:10 PM ---Recall, Tavi has Harry's resources. Knights of the Cross, Murphy, Thomas, Kincaid, and may move them and use them to his advantage as he wants. I can turn on Fury Crafting but I figured Tavi would sweep with that. What do you think?
Also, Tavi is quite a bit above moderate intellect. I do believe you aren't giving him enough credit in that area.
Also, there is more to defeating someone than killing them. This is not a straight up meet in a ring fight as other battles are I've done. I mean that works but there are other ways. Marcone managed to use his intellect (with help of course) against Nicodemus and survived a physical encounter with him. Harry has also used his intelligence to outgambit Nicodemus.
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Without Furycrafting, Tavi wouldn't stand a chance in a single fight.
Furycrafting would more or less even the playing field. But it wouldn't be a guaranteed win for him.
forumghost:
--- Quote from: Griffyn612 on July 19, 2017, 10:41:58 PM ---Without Furycrafting, Tavi wouldn't stand a chance in a single fight.
Furycrafting would more or less even the playing field. But it wouldn't be a guaranteed win for him.
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An average Citizens Furycrafting maybe. Tavi's Furycrafting on the other hand takes it from a stomp for Nick to a stomp for Tavi.
Seriously, End-of-Series Tavi was OP.
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