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--- Quote from: Mr. Death on July 19, 2017, 07:16:26 PM ---Also, "Brute Squad" doesn't appear to be a formal title for a specifically-made group. When Bob uses the term, it's lowercase. The guys at Archangel might have been tougher than the average wizard, but it's not like a SWAT unit that has to be refilled and reestablished.

If there's still an analogue, it's probably the old guard Wardens that you usually see with Ancient Mai and the Senior Council (Warden Scandinavian-Name-Harry-Keeps-Making-Up, for instance).

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Good points.  It could also simply be a group of protoge's that Simon had collected, something informal that died with him.  If a senior council member wanted a more active/formidable group that acted outside established Warden Chain of Command, I could easily see that happening (to one degree of Openness or another, mostly due to the current politics of the SC).

Arguably Eb has done the same thing...

kazimmoinuddin:
If the brut squad was an official part of the wardens, the lore they used in the combat magics would most likely be preserved. Depending on how desperate the council becomes, they might share it more widely.

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--- Quote from: kazimmoinuddin on July 19, 2017, 10:23:28 PM ---If the brut squad was an official part of the wardens, the lore they used in the combat magics would most likely be preserved. Depending on how desperate the council becomes, they might share it more widely.

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I doubt that is the case, based on how they were lamenting the loss of their "Vampire Expert".  If the knowledge were preserved it wouldnt have been a concern, no?

Zaphodess:
I know that not everybody has read the Paranet Papers (book 3 of the RPG) or considers them canon, but if you're interested in Simon, it's really worth reading.

From that source, I got the impression that the "brute-squad" was sort of an assembly of Simon's apprentices. Simon was a harsh teacher and demanded a lot of personal loyalty and obedience from his apprentices. It would be more akin to a private magic school (a very strict one, hence the brute thing maybe) than a military unit or an official institution of the WC.

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--- Quote from: Zaphodess on July 20, 2017, 12:54:56 PM ---I know that not everybody has read the Paranet Papers (book 3 of the RPG) or considers them canon, but if you're interested in Simon, it's really worth reading.

From that source, I got the impression that the "brute-squad" was sort of an assembly of Simon's apprentices. Simon was a harsh teacher and demanded a lot of personal loyalty and obedience from his apprentices. It would be more akin to a private magic school (a very strict one, hence the brute thing maybe) than a military unit or an official institution of the WC.

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Fwiw, everythign Ive heard about the Paranet papers is that the pure story elements (like the Simon stuff you mention) was supposedly straight from Jim.  So despite the RPG being classified as a similar but alternate universe (because it had to hard-quantify some things before major reveals in the novels informed on them, and because Billy doesnt /actually/ know every single secret) I personally feel comfortable accepting a lot of it (including the Simon info) as valid cannon.  Which I suppose means I should read it at some point :P

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