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Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Shift8 on July 17, 2017, 10:38:06 PM ---And that none of the other people in the building managed to kill some of them too.
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Even if the rest of the FBI were too shocked to line up a headshot or hit the kill spot on the belly, just wounding one heavily enough to leave a bloodstain would be evidence. Forensics is going to be very interested in a DNA profile on any 'terrorists' that escaped with wounds after something like that.
The more we dig into this, the more I think Jim is going to have to include some explanation of the aftermath of that as Harry reestablishes himself in Chicago. Shit pretty much had to have hit the fan after that incident - it's one thing for him to have been out of the loop during past events, but once he's back on the grid, there's going to have to have been some fallout that comes to his attention.
Aminar:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on July 18, 2017, 02:22:48 AM ---Even if the rest of the FBI were too shocked to line up a headshot or hit the kill spot on the belly, just wounding one heavily enough to leave a bloodstain would be evidence. Forensics is going to be very interested in a DNA profile on any 'terrorists' that escaped with wounds after something like that.
The more we dig into this, the more I think Jim is going to have to include some explanation of the aftermath of that as Harry reestablishes himself in Chicago. Shit pretty much had to have hit the fan after that incident - it's one thing for him to have been out of the loop during past events, but once he's back on the grid, there's going to have to have been some fallout that comes to his attention.
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Or some fallout so conspicuously absent that its clear stuff was cleaned. Professionally.
Shift8:
--- Quote from: Aminar on July 18, 2017, 02:57:29 AM ---Or some fallout so conspicuously absent that its clear stuff was cleaned. Professionally.
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Thing is though, that is impossible.
A major FBI building erupted into a chaotic shootout that took place on multiple floors. It is NOT POSSIBLE that they government could cover that up.
-Massive amounts of gunfire took place. People would have heard this for blocks. This would absolutely have been in the news. There would have been eyewitnesses, vidoes on youtube etc.
-Missing Persons. You cant cover up that people died. There are alot of families that are going to asking questions on how this happened. Too many to placate with bull.
-To many internal witnesses. Leaks would happened even if you tried. Your never going to convince over 100 FBI persons to keep their mouths shut after they saw vampires.
-Too much left over bio material, if not outright vamp bodies.
I could keep making this list, but it would go on for too long. Bottom line is that this was impossible to cover up. The FBI is not the CIA, and this incident did not take place in some jungle in South America.
forumghost:
You can't cover up the attack no, but concealing the fact that 'we were attacked by a race of Vampires that Secretly controlled South America for longer then this Country has existed' is pretty damn easy.
Witness Accounts? Notoriously unreliable, and the building was darked out in any case. Obviously that combined with the stress from the attack has caused the witnesses to see things. I mean, there's no such thing as bat-monsters. Besides, the Attack Pattern used is recognised by the FBI (According to Tilly) as matching those used by the Cartels.
Bodies/Blood? Taken away and examined by a Coroner who's either on the take, or refuses to acknowledge the truth in front of him (like Butters Boss).
Clearly this was a Cartel hit aimed at the Wanted Terrorist Susan Rodriguez. The only question is, what did she do/know that would make them desperate enough to launch an attack on a federal building.
Shift8:
I'm sorry but I think that is a bit absurd.
It would not be at all easy, and quite frankly impossible, to cover up that attack in the manner you describe. Were talking dozens of witnesses here, and that's just inside of the building. This is not a UFO sighting with some obvious crap video footage to back it up. This isn't two dudes in the woods claiming to have seen bigfoot. This is a huge building full of FBI agents who had a massive shootout with a shitload of Ramps. You could not even come close to containing this. Before you ever thought the words "cover up" word from these people would already have leaked. And no one with half a brain cell is going to be able to disregard that many testimonies as fabrication. This is not the sort of thing the government has the capacity to cover up, period. It doesn't work like that . People don't just wave magic wands and make this kind of incident go away. The government is NOT that powerful. Simple as that.
As for bodies and blood, I would love to know how you think that would be disposed of without every agent in the building seeing all of that. Not to mention how many other groups you might have to get involved to actually clean this up. Some of the clean up would require complete building remodeling, carpet removal etc. I could go on etc.
Cartel hit? Where are the bodies of these are cartel members? Where is the camera footage of their arrival? Where is the evidence of their escape? ETC ETC ETC. You think the news media is going to buy that without evidence?
There are simply too many actors involved here to pay everyone off, not to mention that with this many people you would have legal risks out the butt if anyone blabbed to a reporter.
Not to mention the big issue that would be all the families of the deceased who want to know what happened.
Sorry, that that crap was not covered up. Please take the time to look at the picture of the FBI building and its location in Chicago.
I think the best we can get out of this is that no one would no what they actually encountered. They clearly encountered creatures never seen before, but that's not a reason to assume and entire supernatural world. But claiming they totally covered up those details is IMO not possible.
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