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namkcas:
In other words, as I said...the rules exist to make the stories work and don't think to much about it.   Read my section on phones.

See the whole notion that Jim puts forth makes no sense for something like the scene in the Van in PG.  Here is Harry - in a panic - tossing around magic...and the van works perfectly.  And he is inside the van directly above the transmission.   Why didn't it lock up? 

So my view of this again is don't examine it too closely...there is a whole lotta...it is this way to make this story work.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: namkcas on July 20, 2017, 04:50:13 PM ---In other words, as I said...the rules exist to make the stories work and don't think to much about it.   Read my section on phones.  Because he is inside his car.

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The WORLD exists to make the stories work, that doesnt mean the rules arent consistent. 

Independent George:
It's actually a bit of a misnomer to call revolvers 'simple' than autos (particularly modern semi-autos). They're definitely simpler to operate, but they are mechanically much, much more complex than a modern striker-fired handgun like a Glock (which Ramirez uses without problems).  The average person can detail strip a Glock into all its component parts, clean them, and then re-assemble them in well under an hour. I would not ever recommend attempting to do the same thing with a revolver.

It's the modern materials and manufacturing methods which are more complex than in the past; mechanically, modern guns are far more robust than older ones.

jonas:
I wanna see a blunderbuss, just because. Pretty much any old school wizard could have one.

KurtinStGeorge:

--- Quote from: namkcas on July 20, 2017, 04:26:27 PM ---I think we need to basically say that the technology interactions are problematic in the series and that no single theory can explain them.  They are there to make the plot work.  Let me give some examples:

1 - Guns:  Okay how about old guns...The Colt Model 1911 (aka a 45), Thompson Sub-Machine Gun, the M2 Machine Gun, and a Gatling Gun.  Now that Harry is the Winter Knight he should be able to hold and wield any of these and manage the recoil through clever use of ice.  All of them were invented for or used in WWI with the exception of the Gatling Gun which is US Civil War era tech.  Given the "WWII" nature of the tech challenge, none of these should be impacted by Harry.  So automatic weapons should be completely available to him.  Please note that he used VERY modern ammo in his shotgun during Small Favor...so ammo does not seem to be a problem.  I recognize nobody would walk down a street with an M2 but a 45 is no bigger than some of the crap he has carried.
All of these items would essentially destroy our enjoyment of the stories but are supported by the reading of any of the books.

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You left out the BAR and the StG 44 (or Sturmgewehr).  However, in Cold Days Thomas pointed out that he didn't offer Harry the use of an automatic weapon because Harry is a lousy shot.  It takes practice to fire these things accurately.  I've fired the Thompson Sub-Machine Gun and a few other WW2 era guns.  That thing wants to jump out of your hands, though there are some other weapons of that time period that are much easier to keep on target.  However, I'm getting off topic here.  The fact is Harry doesn't have a lot of time to practice new skills.  For me, that's the only reasonable explanation for Harry not becoming a gun expert.

But I'm not dismissing your main point.  I never really liked the idea that magic messes up modern technology.  It seems too easy a fix to keep modern tech from interfering with or overpowering a story.  I think both Ben Aaronovitch in his Rivers of London books and Benedict Jacka in his Alex Verus series have found different ways of not having modern technology interfere with the magical world.  I especially like that British Light Council in the Alex Verus books uses non-magical mercenaries so the magic users can do their own thing.       

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