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Romulan Cmdr:
So... I saw this in another group and wanted to put it out here.  Since Kemmler's students have the ability to body switch.  What if Kemmler did that to Justin Du Moore? 
Kemmler masqueraded Justin including taking in Harry -etc.
It would explain why he kept Bob around as well as clarifying why he'd be into the dark magic.

After all there seem to be 2 versions of Justin that people saw. The warden that took down Kemmler and fulfilled his duties  AND the jerk who appeared to have gone warlock before getting killed and having a secret apprentice that he never told the 7 laws to.

Quantus:

--- Quote from: Romulan Cmdr on July 10, 2017, 06:57:24 PM ---So... I saw this in another group and wanted to put it out here.  Since Kemmler's students have the ability to body switch.  What if Kemmler did that to Justin Du Moore? 
Kemmler masqueraded Justin including taking in Harry -etc.
It would explain why he kept Bob around as well as clarifying why he'd be into the dark magic.

After all there seem to be 2 versions of Justin that people saw. The warden that took down Kemmler and fulfilled his duties  AND the jerk who appeared to have gone warlock before getting killed and having a secret apprentice that he never told the 7 laws to.

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I doubt it for one reason: Somewhere between Bob being "lost" when Kemmler was taken down and DB when Harry first awakened the remnant.  In that scene in DB Bob said he was compelled to Forget a bunch of his time with Kemmler, and to suppress the rest.  Since it took his Owners order to compel that sort of mutilation later on, I expect it took the same thing the first time.  The only explanation for that I can think of is that Necrobob didnt like Justin any more than he did Harry, and Justin was forced to expel as much of that personality as he could, only unlike Harry he was concerned with the Knowledge he might gain from Kemmler so he didnt fully commit. 

Firnatine34:
It's my working theory. The thing with Bob doesn't trip me up. Kemmler could have compelled Bob to forget before the attack. A blanket "Should you ever fall into someone else hands." kind of deal. It doesn't even approach the foil hat level ideas that are stock and trade around here.

Kemmler is Justin, and Cowl. Elaine is Kumori, of course.

Rasins:
I realize what you are saying, but I have to say that if we see Justin again, and it's not in a memory or something like that, I'll be disappointed.

Jim has made it pretty clear that Justin is gone.  Granted that may mean his spirit/soul, but if his body is being used by someone else, It'll be too similar to the CT/Luccio thing, and it's a "been there, done that" kind of thing.

jonas:

--- Quote from: Rasins on July 11, 2017, 02:11:58 PM ---I realize what you are saying, but I have to say that if we see Justin again, and it's not in a memory or something like that, I'll be disappointed.

Jim has made it pretty clear that Justin is gone.  Granted that may mean his spirit/soul, but if his body is being used by someone else, It'll be too similar to the CT/Luccio thing, and it's a "been there, done that" kind of thing.

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My pet theory is if Kemmler really did leave the info in Bob about how to summon your alternate reality versions, Didn't kemmler 'die' six times? The theory the 7th version Is equal to or greater than the summoner. I think we got alternate reality Kemmler alive after Kemmler made the same mistake as MM Harry.

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