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A warden's sword for Harry...
forumghost:
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on July 26, 2017, 03:14:22 AM ---Nope. That wasn't an execution, that was a combat situation, and he tried his best to talk her down and when that didn't work, he very specifically used her own magic against her to take her out. Right on the razor's edge of the First Law, but he is a Warden, after all.
I strongly suspect that at some point Harry will find himself in a situation where he basically has to execute a helpless warlock, using a gun or a blade, in his capacity as a Warden. Not combat, just cold-blooded killing of a human being who is powerless to fight back or run or otherwise do anything about it.
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Like he did with Corpsetaker you mean? No trial, no fight, just shot in the back of the head?
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: forumghost on July 26, 2017, 04:06:51 AM ---Like he did with Corpsetaker you mean? No trial, no fight, just shot in the back of the head?
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Nope. That was still a combat situation.
Think execution. The warlock is tied hands behind him/her (knowing Harry's luck, more likely her, and probably a young kid to boot), blindfolded/hooded, 100% helpless. It's not a fight, it's Harry having to kill a helpless human being in cold blood, the way they beheaded the Korean kid, or Morgan would have had to behead Molly if things had gone the other way. Though I suspect Harry might prefer to use a gun, if has to do it at all.
The person to be killed is not an immediate threat (though he might be if he gets loose), just a physically and magically helpless human who Harry Dresden has to terminate.
Wardens do that, it's part of the job description, and I strongly suspect Harry will find himself in a situation at some point where he can't get out of it.
The closest thing Harry has done to this, so far, would be killing Lloyd Slate. That would approximate it. But even that was not quite the same.
forumghost:
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on July 26, 2017, 05:08:04 AM ---Nope. That was still a combat situation.
Think execution. The warlock is tied hands behind him/her (knowing Harry's luck, more likely her, and probably a young kid to boot), blindfolded/hooded, 100% helpless. It's not a fight, it's Harry having to kill a helpless human being in cold blood, the way they beheaded the Korean kid, or Morgan would have had to behead Molly if things had gone the other way. Though I suspect Harry might prefer to use a gun, if has to do it at all.
The person to be killed is not an immediate threat (though he might be if he gets loose), just a physically and magically helpless human who Harry Dresden has to terminate.
Wardens do that, it's part of the job description, and I strongly suspect Harry will find himself in a situation at some point where he can't get out of it.
The closest thing Harry has done to this, so far, would be killing Lloyd Slate. That would approximate it. But even that was not quite the same.
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--- Quote ---I hadn't been wrong--but I'd never... never just killed anyone before. I've killed things in the heat of battle, yes. I've killed people by less direct means. But Corpsetaker's death had been intimate and coldly calculated and not at all indirect....
I'd killed. Deliberately, rationally ended another's life....
I had executed her on suspicion.
No trial. No soulgaze. No judgment from a dispassionate arbiter. Hell, I hadn't even taken the chance to get in a good insult. Bang. Thump. One live wizard, one dead bad guy.
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Harry certainly thought of it that way.
Zaphodess:
--- Quote from: forumghost on July 26, 2017, 05:28:30 AM ---
Harry certainly thought of it that way.
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Yes, but LordDresden is right, it still was a combat situation. A real execution is something else. Though I do think Lloyd Slate qualifies, even if it was a mercy killing too.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Zaphodess on July 26, 2017, 08:24:46 AM ---Yes, but LordDresden is right, it still was a combat situation. A real execution is something else. Though I do think Lloyd Slate qualifies, even if it was a mercy killing too.
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It might be helpful to others, but it's a distinction that Harry clearly does not buy.
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