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A warden's sword for Harry...
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: Quantus on July 24, 2017, 12:48:35 PM ---||Nitpick||
all being martial arts "Sport adaptations" that have certain style and technique limitations that are necessary to keep competitors from killing each other too easily.
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Fair that they're all sport adaptations to one degree or another. I just meant that MMA is considerably closer to practical combat (i.e. you're allowed to keep hitting a downed opponent until the official pulls you off, compared to boxing where you're supposed to lay off and allow them to stand if they can within the count).
Quantus:
--- Quote from: Snark Knight on July 24, 2017, 02:26:40 PM ---Fair that they're all sport adaptations to one degree or another. I just meant that MMA is considerably closer to practical combat (i.e. you're allowed to keep hitting a downed opponent until the official pulls you off, compared to boxing where you're supposed to lay off and allow them to stand if they can within the count).
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Also true. My quibble with the various MMA's out there is that they all still (for very good reason) have to ban certain moves, strikes, etc. and by doing so it degrades the real-world application, as you are now training under the assumption that the most damaging moves will not be used, like a strike to the throat or a knee to the head, etc. Less extreme than the stereotype way to floor a boxer (IE a swift kick to the balls) but a similar danger.
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: kazimmoinuddin on July 24, 2017, 12:17:02 AM ---I could see the council giving him a sword just to force him carrying out the execution of a law breaker.
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Oh, I fully expect that to happen at some point. I don't know if it'll be done using a Council sword, but I fully expect Harry to find himself in a position where he has to execute a Lawbreaker, probably a kid not entirely unlike he himself at one time, with no way out.
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I had this theory that somehow the sword counters a magic user death curse. It cuts magic, so using it to slay a magic user interferes with the last casting of magic.
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Maybe, but I suspect that has more to do with the blindfold, so the target doesn't realize he's about to buy it.
Quantus:
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on July 25, 2017, 03:46:06 AM ---Oh, I fully expect that to happen at some point. I don't know if it'll be done using a Council sword, but I fully expect Harry to find himself in a position where he has to execute a Lawbreaker, probably a kid not entirely unlike he himself at one time, with no way out.
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*coughcough* hannahascher *coughhack*
Regarding Harry using an existing Warden sword, WOj is that they are customized to the mentality of the user, so to use somebody else you'd need to get warped so much you essentially become them; possible, but extreme and unlikely.
As far as the Swords anti-magic being part of the reason they are used for executions, I highly doubt it. Their morality Laws and Codes are pretty specific on killing by magic vs mundane means. There's even a long WOJ about it, and about how even with Kemmler they made sure to stay in their comfortable side of the line.
Here's the key part about Kemmler, but the rest is well worth it as it elaborates some on the Council mentality on killing, and Grey Magic in general.
--- Quote from: WOJ ---http://www.jimbutcheronline.com/bb/index.php/topic,1879.msg37967.html#msg37967
Technically, they didn't actually kill him with magic. They rendered him helpless with magic and then found other ways to execute him. (Swords are the usual. For Kemmler, they also used guns, axes, shovels, ropes, a flamethrower, and a number of other extremes.) It's a semantic difference, in some ways, but an important technical distinction in others.
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khadgar4606:
--- Quote from: Quantus on July 25, 2017, 12:16:10 PM ---*coughcough* hannahascher *coughhack*
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she is gonne for good lasciel cant find a host in supernatural fort nox so executing her will happen when mab performs a lap dance to ferrovax on new years eve
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