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A warden's sword for Harry...
LordDresden2:
--- Quote from: groinkick on July 19, 2017, 04:29:03 AM ---WoJ somewhere saying something about if Harry used a sword he'd fall and stab himself on it. Think he was answering a question about the Summer Knight having a sword, and if Harry would get one.
So my personal opinion is he won't be getting one based on what Jim said.
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It's true that to use a sword effectively takes practice and training, quite a bit of it. You need a certain basic amount just to avoid making the sword more dangerous to you than your foe, and more yet to use it well.
That's true of all weapons, of course, but more so of sword and their kin than things like guns. One of the early reasons for the adoption of firearms as weapons, even aside from their power, was that you could learn to use one effectively more quickly than you could older weapons. That was part of why guns were in use even when they still weren't all that much more potent than blades and bows yet.
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--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on July 19, 2017, 05:00:42 AM ---It's true that to use a sword effectively takes practice and training, quite a bit of it. You need a certain basic amount just to avoid making the sword more dangerous to you than your foe, and more yet to use it well.
That's true of all weapons, of course, but more so of sword and their kin than things like guns. One of the early reasons for the adoption of firearms as weapons, even aside from their power, was that you could learn to use one effectively more quickly than you could older weapons. That was part of why guns were in use even when they still weren't all that much more potent than blades and bows yet.
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Philosophically I entirely disagree with this, just because I think it take a hell of a lot of training and practice to safety use a gun in a combat situation, or anywhere outside a controlled space like a gunrange. The only difference I see versus a Sword is that a Sword take a lot more training before it becomes truly dangerous, whereas a gun can accidentally kill in anyone's hands. But being able to Kill somebody is the lowest possible bar for competency, a monkey with a stick can do that. Guns won out over swords in warfar because they were cheaper than crossbows and it was a lot easier to just hand one to untrained conscript and point him in the general direction of the enemy. But that didnt stop lots of them from accidentally loading a dozen balls into their musket and never realizing they failed to fire it (a common occurrence in the US revolution and Civil war era's).
Snark Knight:
--- Quote from: LordDresden2 on July 19, 2017, 05:00:42 AM ---One of the early reasons for the adoption of firearms as weapons, even aside from their power, was that you could learn to use one effectively more quickly than you could older weapons. That was part of why guns were in use even when they still weren't all that much more potent than blades and bows yet.
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By some measures, after the use of armor trailed off again, bows were better until well into the 1800's. The problem was it took decades of practice for an archer to get to peak performance, and given that most military purposes were shooting into a crowd rather than trying to pick off specific targets, it just wasn't worth the training time.
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--- Quote from: Snark Knight on July 19, 2017, 02:03:19 PM ---By some measures, after the use of armor trailed off again, bows were better until well into the 1800's. The problem was it took decades of practice for an archer to get to peak performance, and given that most military purposes were shooting into a crowd rather than trying to pick off specific targets, it just wasn't worth the training time.
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Which in turn is why the Crossbow was such a big advancement. Much less skill required, and far less reliant on individual arm strength. Where it still fell short vs firearms was in the ammunition logistics (ie cost and volume). A crossbowman could go through similar numbers of Bolts as an archer did Arrows, and it took literal wagon-loads to keep a longbowman firing throughout an engagement, and arrows required trained (if modest) craftsmen. By comparison, lead and powder are bulk commodities, and anyone with a campfire and a plier-like mold could make musket-balls.
khadgar4606:
--- Quote from: groinkick on July 19, 2017, 04:29:03 AM ---WoJ somewhere saying something about if Harry used a sword he'd fall and stab himself on it. Think he was answering a question about the Summer Knight having a sword, and if Harry would get one.
So my personal opinion is he won't be getting one based on what Jim said.
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harry cant use a sword unless that sword has intellectus of how to wield it so he is better use kusunagii( which comes with spirit of blade thanks to japanese smithing) instead of warden swords by the way BAKAİ!
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